A Collision With Something For Everyone

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SAN DIEGO -- One man died late Monday night in a chain-reaction
accident on a local freeway.

IMAGES: Fatal 3-Car Pileup

The accident began at about 11:45 p.m. when a Dodge pickup crashed into
a Toyota Camry that had stalled in the northbound lanes of Interstate
15 just south of Miramar Way. The driver of the Camry was outside the
vehicle at the time and was not injured.

Minutes later, a Kia sedan slammed into the pickup. The driver, Ruben
Guerrero, 29, of Allied Gardens, was killed, according to the San Diego
County Medical Examiner's Office. Investigators said he was not wearing
a seat belt.

The driver of the pickup was arrested for suspicion of driving under
the influence of alcohol.

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So, a vehicle stalls, and in California fashion a drunk drives into the
stalled car. Both drivers apparently get clear, then a seat belt
violator drives into the mess, killing himself.

How many more R.A.D. standard topics could fit in one pileup?

Dave

"Dave" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> http://www.nbcsandiego.com/traffic/5817751/detail.html
>
> SAN DIEGO -- One man died late Monday night in a chain-reaction
> accident on a local freeway.
>
> IMAGES: Fatal 3-Car Pileup
>
> The accident began at about 11:45 p.m. when a Dodge pickup crashed into
> a Toyota Camry that had stalled in the northbound lanes of Interstate
> 15 just south of Miramar Way. The driver of the Camry was outside the
> vehicle at the time and was not injured.
>
> Minutes later, a Kia sedan slammed into the pickup. The driver, Ruben
> Guerrero, 29, of Allied Gardens, was killed, according to the San Diego
> County Medical Examiner's Office. Investigators said he was not wearing
> a seat belt.
>
> The driver of the pickup was arrested for suspicion of driving under
> the influence of alcohol.
>
> --- End Paste ---
>
> So, a vehicle stalls, and in California fashion a drunk drives into the
> stalled car. Both drivers apparently get clear, then a seat belt
> violator drives into the mess, killing himself.
>
> How many more R.A.D. standard topics could fit in one pileup?

Was the Camry in the left lane? Was someone charged for speeding while going
85th percentile?

John Smith wrote:
> "Dave" > wrote in message
> oups.com...

> > So, a vehicle stalls, and in California fashion a drunk drives into the
> > stalled car. Both drivers apparently get clear, then a seat belt
> > violator drives into the mess, killing himself.
> >
> > How many more R.A.D. standard topics could fit in one pileup?
>
> Was the Camry in the left lane? Was someone charged for speeding while going
> 85th percentile?

The Camry may have been when it started, it was difficult to tell from
the video on the news since by the time the cameras were filming it
looked like the cars were spread across most of the 6 or 7 southbound
lanes. The only charges mentioned have been drunk driving, so far.

Dave

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Dave wrote:

> So, a vehicle stalls, and in California fashion a drunk drives into the
> stalled car. Both drivers apparently get clear, then a seat belt
> violator drives into the mess, killing himself. How many more R.A.D.
> standard topics could fit in one pileup?

Well, that depends. Was any of them a Democrat? A Republican? A smoker?
Was any of the involved vehicles equipped with DRLs? Was any of the
drivers speeding? Was any of them in the US illegally?

"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
.umich.edu...
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Dave wrote:
>
>> So, a vehicle stalls, and in California fashion a drunk drives into the
>> stalled car. Both drivers apparently get clear, then a seat belt
>> violator drives into the mess, killing himself. How many more R.A.D.
>> standard topics could fit in one pileup?
>
> Well, that depends. Was any of them a Democrat? A Republican? A smoker?
> Was any of the involved vehicles equipped with DRLs? Was any of the
> drivers speeding? Was any of them in the US illegally?

Red rear turn signals (the pick up), fog lights, poorly aimed lights, crappy
American spec lights, fake blue halogens.

"Dave" > wrote in message
>
> How many more R.A.D. standard topics could fit in one pileup?

Perhaps Scott was caught in the resultant traffic delay, thus tagging all
three participants as MFFYs. Or "MFFY asshole *******s", depending on how
well his day went up to that point.

Dave, > was motivated to say this in
rec.autos.driving on 3 Jan 2006 14:10:20 -0800:

> So, a vehicle stalls, and in California fashion a drunk drives into the
> stalled car. Both drivers apparently get clear, then a seat belt
> violator drives into the mess, killing himself.
>
> How many more R.A.D. standard topics could fit in one pileup?
>

Well, I didn't see any mention of whether or not any of the vehicles was
a "beater," with bald tires, no emergency brake, inoperative dash lights
and leaking oil....

>> Was the Camry in the left lane? Was someone charged for speeding while
>> going
>> 85th percentile?
>
> The Camry may have been when it started, it was difficult to tell from
> the video on the news since by the time the cameras were filming it
> looked like the cars were spread across most of the 6 or 7 southbound
> lanes. The only charges mentioned have been drunk driving, so far.
>
> Dave
>

I looked at all the images, and it's impossible to tell where the Camry was
parked. I would HOPE that it was in the breakdown lane, where only a DUI
driver could possibly hit it. That doesn't explain how the KIA driver would
hit the pickup though, unless the pickup bounced into a travel lane after
hitting the camry.

Assuming the Camry was parked in a travel lane . . . couldn't the Camry
driver be charged with something related to this mess? Even if your car
suddenly stalls, your car is going to coast for quite a long distance on a
relatively flat freeway before it stops. You've got time to get it OFF the
fricking road. -Dave

"Mike T." > wrote in
reenews.net:

> Assuming the Camry was parked in a travel lane . . . couldn't the
> Camry driver be charged with something related to this mess? Even if
> your car suddenly stalls, your car is going to coast for quite a long
> distance on a relatively flat freeway before it stops. You've got
> time to get it OFF the fricking road. -Dave

You've hit one of my big pet peeves; last time I had a car die at freeway
speed, I had time to make two attempts at restarting, (no luck; it turned
out to be the timing belt) coast down the shoulder to the next exit, and
finally stop on the outside shoulder of the access road. Last time a car
died on me at a near stop, I was able to push it to the curb in less than
two minutes. There's just no excuse for leaving a stalled car in the
middle of the road.

Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH wrote:
> "Mike T." > wrote in
> reenews.net:
>
> > Assuming the Camry was parked in a travel lane . . . couldn't the
> > Camry driver be charged with something related to this mess? Even if
> > your car suddenly stalls, your car is going to coast for quite a long
> > distance on a relatively flat freeway before it stops. You've got
> > time to get it OFF the fricking road. -Dave
>
> You've hit one of my big pet peeves; last time I had a car die at freeway
> speed, I had time to make two attempts at restarting, (no luck; it turned
> out to be the timing belt) coast down the shoulder to the next exit, and
> finally stop on the outside shoulder of the access road. Last time a car
> died on me at a near stop, I was able to push it to the curb in less than
> two minutes. There's just no excuse for leaving a stalled car in the
> middle of the road.

Not only that, if you by some fluke find yourself stopped dead in the
middle of the road, unless you've had a clutch, transmission, or CV
failure, you can pull the car to the side with the starter. Not
particularly good for the starter, but a new starter is cheaper and
easier than repairing the damage from a high speed rear-ender.

nate