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Old June 20th 07, 05:30 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Default I need help with OBD freeze frame data

I recently purchased an OBD-II auto scanner. I understand the basic
obd codes, but there is also this freeze frame data that is completely
beyond me. It is stuff about short and long term fuel trim systems.
What do those percentages mean and how can I use them effectively?

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Old June 21st 07, 12:34 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Default I need help with OBD freeze frame data

The simple answer is that your Freeze Frame Data is a 'saved' profile of all
your emissions/operating parameters (usually the MAP/MAF have greatest fuel
authority then the EGR/O2 sensors) at the time the CEL code is generated.
In otherwords, fuel trim percentages help troubleshoot drivability issues
based on comparing sensor outputs from most of the 5V reference emissions
sensors on your vehicle. If your short term fuel percentage shows +28, this
means that your computer is adding 28% fuel to compensate for a lean
condition (could be a bad O2 sensor, fuel leak, bad plug, EGR....). Looking
at both fuel trims levels can help troubleshoot IF- THEN situations a little
more clearly.

Fuel Trim ratings simply allow us to measure whether fuel is being added or
taken away from baseline fuel duty cycles. Short term is basically
adjustments on-the-fly to fuel delivery and long term is factored as a
result of 'x' amount of drivability cycles to give you a 'long term' average
that might eliminate minor adjustments, etc.. As we all know, this is a
half-asses explanation as there are many variables and speciific timing
involved in the correct 'technical' answer so you would best be served by
looking at something like this:

http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/november/scantool.htm

(MUCH better explanation).

Take care,
Andrew.




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at wrote on 6/20/07
12:30 PM:

> I recently purchased an OBD-II auto scanner. I understand the basic
> obd codes, but there is also this freeze frame data that is completely
> beyond me. It is stuff about short and long term fuel trim systems.
> What do those percentages mean and how can I use them effectively?


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Old June 21st 07, 04:20 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Default I need help with OBD freeze frame data

Mike Romain > wrote:
wrote:
>> I recently purchased an OBD-II auto scanner. I understand the basic
>> obd codes, but there is also this freeze frame data that is completely
>> beyond me. It is stuff about short and long term fuel trim systems.
>> What do those percentages mean and how can I use them effectively?

>
>Unless you have a specific problem, those scanners are totally useless
>in my opinion.


This is the case, though, for EVERY diagnostic tool ever made.
--scott
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