Patrol Car slams into Car on Intersection.............Police Car Camera

See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html

Hans wrote:
> See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
> officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
> did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
> http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html

Its easy to miss almost any amount of lights/siren once in awhile.
Most cops I see in that situation slow down a bit for the
intersections, because people miss the lights and all far too often.

D

In article .com>, wrote:
> Its easy to miss almost any amount of lights/siren once in awhile.
> Most cops I see in that situation slow down a bit for the
> intersections, because people miss the lights and all far too often.

Actually the new lights and sirens just plain suck. The directionality is
very poor. I see the flashing or hear the siren and then I start looking
around and keep my present course slowing a little, once I find the
emergency vehicle then I can react properly. The last thing I want to do
is something unpredictable or that it would put me in it's way. With the old
lights I could tell that it was coming from my left or my right or in
front or wherever at the first the lights and sirens were noticed. Much
faster assement could be made.

It's the difference between a mechanical rotation and just quick flashes
in geting a direction on it.

I get direction right away is when the emergency vehicle
is visible and picked up in a normal scan. But hidden behind other traffic
or a building, trees, whatever, it takes a bit of time to locate it with
the modern lights.

Hans wrote:
> See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
> officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
> did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
> http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html

This is exactly why the right of way is to be given, and not taken and
why emergency vehicles always slow down at intersections. This the
first time I have seen an emergency vehicle, NOT do that.

Brent P wrote:

> In article .com>, wrote:
> > Its easy to miss almost any amount of lights/siren once in awhile.
> > Most cops I see in that situation slow down a bit for the
> > intersections, because people miss the lights and all far too often.
>
> Actually the new lights and sirens just plain suck. The directionality is
> very poor.

< snip >

This is very true.

There have been some trials over here of sounds that include some filtered white noise. This works
very much better in getting a sense of its location.

Graham

wrote:
> Hans wrote:
> > See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
> > officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
> > did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
> > http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html
>
> This is exactly why the right of way is to be given, and not taken and
> why emergency vehicles always slow down at intersections. This the
> first time I have seen an emergency vehicle, NOT do that.

Yep, absolutely the cop's fault. They are required to slow to verify
intersection clearance, at least if the light is red. This cop didn't
do that.

On 14 Jul 2006 12:03:49 -0700, "Hans" > wrote:

>See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
>officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
>did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
>http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html

I'm wondering what took the cop so long to see the car coming thru the
interesection? Its not like he didn't have a chance to avoid it. There
appeared to be something like 2 seconds or so to see that the car wasn't even
slowing. Sweve, for pete's sake.

Dave Head

wrote:
> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
wrote:
>>
>>>Hans wrote:
>>>
>>>>See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
>>>>officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
>>>>did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
>>>>http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html
>>>
>>>This is exactly why the right of way is to be given, and not taken

I see you read the post, reakhavoc or whatever your name is, did you
notice that this appears to be directed at you?

> and
>>>why emergency vehicles always slow down at intersections. This the
>>>first time I have seen an emergency vehicle, NOT do that.
>>
>>Yep, absolutely the cop's fault. They are required to slow to verify
>>intersection clearance, at least if the light is red. This cop didn't
>>do that.
>
> Hell, I didn't even realize it was red. Yup, his fault. But I wonder
> if the civilian will get blamed?
>

Of course, but only because a cop is always right.

nate

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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:43:53 -0500, (Brent
P) wrote:

>In article .com>, wrote:
>> Its easy to miss almost any amount of lights/siren once in awhile.
>> Most cops I see in that situation slow down a bit for the
>> intersections, because people miss the lights and all far too often.
>
>Actually the new lights and sirens just plain suck. The directionality is
>very poor. I see the flashing or hear the siren and then I start looking
>around and keep my present course slowing a little, once I find the
>emergency vehicle then I can react properly. The last thing I want to do
>is something unpredictable or that it would put me in it's way. With the old
>lights I could tell that it was coming from my left or my right or in
>front or wherever at the first the lights and sirens were noticed. Much
>faster assement could be made.

I'm generally always able to see the lights, but the sirens do suck - have ever
since they got rid of the mechanical sirens. The electronic ones just don't
make all that much noise. Its loud if you're standing beside it, but try to
hear it with the windows up and the radio playing, even at a reasonable volume.
Plus, I think they at some point must have decided to make the sirens quieter
because it disturbed some people.

>It's the difference between a mechanical rotation and just quick flashes
>in geting a direction on it.

Plus, the lights are very compressed vertically, so there's only a few inches
of height, rather than the 6 - 8 inches 30 years ago. They're trying to make
'em less visible (duh!) so they can sneak up on speeders.

>I get direction right away is when the emergency vehicle
>is visible and picked up in a normal scan. But hidden behind other traffic
>or a building, trees, whatever, it takes a bit of time to locate it with
>the modern lights.

and the weak siren.

Dave Head

On 14 Jul 2006 17:54:09 -0700, "Daniel J. Stern" >
wrote:

>
wrote:
>> Hans wrote:
>> > See what happened, from the Police-Car-Cam point of view, when an
>> > officer was driving with his sirens and emergency-lights on, and a car
>> > did not yield or stop for him on an intersection:
>> > http://www.jumpingpixels.com/sheriffs2.html
>>
>> This is exactly why the right of way is to be given, and not taken and
>> why emergency vehicles always slow down at intersections. This the
>> first time I have seen an emergency vehicle, NOT do that.
>
>Yep, absolutely the cop's fault. They are required to slow to verify
>intersection clearance, at least if the light is red. This cop didn't
>do that.

They may be "required" to slow at intersections, etc, but is that what you want
'em doing if some bad guy has a knife at your throat?

This recent idea that emergency vehicles don't have to treat their responses as
emergencies just sucks. They turn on the lights and sirens, the public has,
traditionally, been expected to stop for 'em and/or get the hell out of the
way. And, of course, this all goes out the window in a pursuit situation,
anyway. since the perp doesn't even _have_ any lights and sirens, so if you
hear the siren of the police car chasing him, you damn well better not be
stumbling into any intersections without knowing the entire situation, or
you'll get him in your driver's door, likely as not.

If you got the latest gang of home invaders banging on your front door, I'm
betting you're hoping the cop is blowing _all_ the damn lights and stops...

Dave Head