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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
Way back when, in one or more newsgroups, I suggested the blue 3.5 ton
quick rise jack as sold by Sam's Club, to those who were looking for a cheap, functional, and strong floor jack for home use. I wanted to offer some tips I recently discovered when confronted with the problem of fixing or replacing mine due to low fluid level. It should be noted that I didn't "fix" it per se, but gave it a longer life. The seals, even if available, wouldn't be worth spending money on when this jack only leaks fluid a couple drops per year. Here's a pic I found so you know which jack I'm talking about: http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/3...e/P1010044.JPG Having topped off hydraulic jacks and other types of chambers before, this one turned out to be a bit more diffcult to fill than in past experiences. The symptom was that the jack would 'quick rise' OK, but after about 8" of loaded lifting, the functional stroke of the handle would start decreasing, and by the time it was near fully lifted, there would hardly be any stroke left. Here's how to refill it (there may be easier ways but I couldn't get it to work any other way): 1) Locate the magnetic parts bin and remove it from the jack frame. This will uncover the three threaded plugs that are used to adjust or service the jack. Look for the one "by itself"... IOW, two will be close together, and the third one will be spaced apart from them. Aquire at least one pint of new hydraulic jack oil. Don safety apparel and position the jack over some rags or something very absorbant. With the jack pad down and the handle valve released, unscrew this plug, accurately counting the turns until it is completely unthreaded. Do this slowly as fluid will come out under slight pressure; it will make a mess. If you pulled out the correct plug, it will have a small tip on the end of it that engages with a spring inside the plug hole. Be sure to remember the number of turns. Mine was threaded about 6.5 turns. 2) Kneel on the jack frame or otherwise keep it from lifting off the ground, then grab the lift pad/saddle with one hand while holding the oil bottle in the other hand. Keep in mind that as you lift the pad through it's arc, there are braces going through complex motions, so keep your fingers clear of this potentially pinchy situation. To avoid moving parts, you can grab only the pad and lift up this way, since it is made to stay in place (unlike with most jack saddles that are designed to interchange easily). 3) Very slowly lift the pad while drizzling oil into the plug hole. As you lift the pad/arm, the fluid level will lower in this hole. If you hear an "air sucking" noise, you went too fast and/or didn't add enough oil. Slower is better here. 4) Once you reach the top of the arm's range, you can push it slightly further and it will go into the "service lock" position. This will hold it up while you complete step 4. Now reinstall the plug temporarily, atleast a few turns to make sure it doesn't leak. 5) "Unlock" the arm and let it fall to the bottom under it's own weight and return spring pressure. Tighten the handle valve. Put pressure on the pad with one hand so the quick lift feature doesn't engage, and pump the jack up as high as it will go before the stroke becomes less than 100% effective. 6) Postured as you were in step 2, grab the pad with one hand and keep it in this position. Now open the handle valve with the other hand and lower the handle to the floor if it isn't there already. Remove the plug again while still holding the pad at this height. Repeat steps 3 through 6 until you find that the jack exhibits 100% strokes all the way up to full loaded position. This took me more steps than I cared to count, but probably because of all the trial and error. I would think you vould get it done in about 10 steps. It might take 1/2 hour at worst. I think the internal quick rise feature is why A) there are 3 service plugs and B) a standard reservoir fill and bleed wouldn't work for me. HTH. Toyota MDT in MO |
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:23:08 -0800, Comboverfish wrote:
> Way back when, in one or more newsgroups, I suggested the blue 3.5 ton > quick rise jack as sold by Sam's Club, I'm sure you did! How are you? |
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
Just fixed my jack using your information and it works great. A bit messy filling it up but works like new again. Thanks.
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
davidc:
Just don't jack up any DC10 engine-pylon combos with it! |
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 6:23:08 PM UTC-5, Comboverfish wrote:
> Way back when, in one or more newsgroups, I suggested the blue 3.5 ton > quick rise jack as sold by Sam's Club, to those who were looking for a > cheap, functional, and strong floor jack for home use. I wanted to > offer some tips I recently discovered when confronted with the problem > of fixing or replacing mine due to low fluid level. It should be > noted that I didn't "fix" it per se, but gave it a longer life. The > seals, even if available, wouldn't be worth spending money on when > this jack only leaks fluid a couple drops per year. > > Here's a pic I found so you know which jack I'm talking about: > http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/3...e/P1010044.JPG > > Having topped off hydraulic jacks and other types of chambers before, > this one turned out to be a bit more diffcult to fill than in past > experiences. > > The symptom was that the jack would 'quick rise' OK, but after about > 8" of loaded lifting, the functional stroke of the handle would start > decreasing, and by the time it was near fully lifted, there would > hardly be any stroke left. > > Here's how to refill it (there may be easier ways but I couldn't get > it to work any other way): > > 1) Locate the magnetic parts bin and remove it from the jack frame. > This will uncover the three threaded plugs that are used to adjust or > service the jack. Look for the one "by itself"... IOW, two will be > close together, and the third one will be spaced apart from them. > Aquire at least one pint of new hydraulic jack oil. Don safety > apparel and position the jack over some rags or something very > absorbant. With the jack pad down and the handle valve released, > unscrew this plug, accurately counting the turns until it is > completely unthreaded. Do this slowly as fluid will come out under > slight pressure; it will make a mess. If you pulled out the correct > plug, it will have a small tip on the end of it that engages with a > spring inside the plug hole. Be sure to remember the number of > turns. Mine was threaded about 6.5 turns. > > 2) Kneel on the jack frame or otherwise keep it from lifting off the > ground, then grab the lift pad/saddle with one hand while holding the > oil bottle in the other hand. Keep in mind that as you lift the pad > through it's arc, there are braces going through complex motions, so > keep your fingers clear of this potentially pinchy situation. To > avoid moving parts, you can grab only the pad and lift up this way, > since it is made to stay in place (unlike with most jack saddles that > are designed to interchange easily). > > 3) Very slowly lift the pad while drizzling oil into the plug hole. > As you lift the pad/arm, the fluid level will lower in this hole. If > you hear an "air sucking" noise, you went too fast and/or didn't add > enough oil. Slower is better here. > > 4) Once you reach the top of the arm's range, you can push it slightly > further and it will go into the "service lock" position. This will > hold it up while you complete step 4. Now reinstall the plug > temporarily, atleast a few turns to make sure it doesn't leak. > > 5) "Unlock" the arm and let it fall to the bottom under it's own > weight and return spring pressure. Tighten the handle valve. Put > pressure on the pad with one hand so the quick lift feature doesn't > engage, and pump the jack up as high as it will go before the stroke > becomes less than 100% effective. > > 6) Postured as you were in step 2, grab the pad with one hand and keep > it in this position. Now open the handle valve with the other hand > and lower the handle to the floor if it isn't there already. Remove > the plug again while still holding the pad at this height. Repeat > steps 3 through 6 until you find that the jack exhibits 100% strokes > all the way up to full loaded position. This took me more steps than > I cared to count, but probably because of all the trial and error. I > would think you vould get it done in about 10 steps. It might take > 1/2 hour at worst. > > I think the internal quick rise feature is why A) there are 3 service > plugs and B) a standard reservoir fill and bleed wouldn't work for > me. HTH. > > Toyota MDT in MO Or you can just pop the rubber plug at the top of the cylinder (visible with the magnetic tray removed), and add oil. I do it al the time until I rebuild it with new seals. |
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 1:41:15 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 6:23:08 PM UTC-5, Comboverfish wrote: > > Way back when, in one or more newsgroups, I suggested the blue 3.5 ton > > quick rise jack as sold by Sam's Club, to those who were looking for a > > cheap, functional, and strong floor jack for home use. I wanted to > > offer some tips I recently discovered when confronted with the problem > > of fixing or replacing mine due to low fluid level. It should be > > noted that I didn't "fix" it per se, but gave it a longer life. The > > seals, even if available, wouldn't be worth spending money on when > > this jack only leaks fluid a couple drops per year. > > > > Here's a pic I found so you know which jack I'm talking about: > > http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/3...e/P1010044.JPG > > > > Having topped off hydraulic jacks and other types of chambers before, > > this one turned out to be a bit more diffcult to fill than in past > > experiences. > > > > The symptom was that the jack would 'quick rise' OK, but after about > > 8" of loaded lifting, the functional stroke of the handle would start > > decreasing, and by the time it was near fully lifted, there would > > hardly be any stroke left. > > > > Here's how to refill it (there may be easier ways but I couldn't get > > it to work any other way): > > > > 1) Locate the magnetic parts bin and remove it from the jack frame. > > This will uncover the three threaded plugs that are used to adjust or > > service the jack. Look for the one "by itself"... IOW, two will be > > close together, and the third one will be spaced apart from them. > > Aquire at least one pint of new hydraulic jack oil. Don safety > > apparel and position the jack over some rags or something very > > absorbant. With the jack pad down and the handle valve released, > > unscrew this plug, accurately counting the turns until it is > > completely unthreaded. Do this slowly as fluid will come out under > > slight pressure; it will make a mess. If you pulled out the correct > > plug, it will have a small tip on the end of it that engages with a > > spring inside the plug hole. Be sure to remember the number of > > turns. Mine was threaded about 6.5 turns. > > > > 2) Kneel on the jack frame or otherwise keep it from lifting off the > > ground, then grab the lift pad/saddle with one hand while holding the > > oil bottle in the other hand. Keep in mind that as you lift the pad > > through it's arc, there are braces going through complex motions, so > > keep your fingers clear of this potentially pinchy situation. To > > avoid moving parts, you can grab only the pad and lift up this way, > > since it is made to stay in place (unlike with most jack saddles that > > are designed to interchange easily). > > > > 3) Very slowly lift the pad while drizzling oil into the plug hole. > > As you lift the pad/arm, the fluid level will lower in this hole. If > > you hear an "air sucking" noise, you went too fast and/or didn't add > > enough oil. Slower is better here. > > > > 4) Once you reach the top of the arm's range, you can push it slightly > > further and it will go into the "service lock" position. This will > > hold it up while you complete step 4. Now reinstall the plug > > temporarily, atleast a few turns to make sure it doesn't leak. > > > > 5) "Unlock" the arm and let it fall to the bottom under it's own > > weight and return spring pressure. Tighten the handle valve. Put > > pressure on the pad with one hand so the quick lift feature doesn't > > engage, and pump the jack up as high as it will go before the stroke > > becomes less than 100% effective. > > > > 6) Postured as you were in step 2, grab the pad with one hand and keep > > it in this position. Now open the handle valve with the other hand > > and lower the handle to the floor if it isn't there already. Remove > > the plug again while still holding the pad at this height. Repeat > > steps 3 through 6 until you find that the jack exhibits 100% strokes > > all the way up to full loaded position. This took me more steps than > > I cared to count, but probably because of all the trial and error. I > > would think you vould get it done in about 10 steps. It might take > > 1/2 hour at worst. > > > > I think the internal quick rise feature is why A) there are 3 service > > plugs and B) a standard reservoir fill and bleed wouldn't work for > > me. HTH. > > > > Toyota MDT in MO > > Or you can just pop the rubber plug at the top of the cylinder (visible with the magnetic tray removed), and add oil. I do it al the time until I rebuild it with new seals. Where did you get the seal kit? |
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
replying to schumacherrobert217, Shannon wrote:
Where did you get the seal kit at -- for full context, visit https://www.motorsforum.com/tech/how...ack-78706-.htm |
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How to refill a leaking Sam's club "Michelin" floor jack
On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:41:15 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 6:23:08 PM UTC-5, Comboverfish wrote: > > Way back when, in one or more newsgroups, I suggested the blue 3.5 ton > > quick rise jack as sold by Sam's Club, to those who were looking for a > > cheap, functional, and strong floor jack for home use. I wanted to > > offer some tips I recently discovered when confronted with the problem > > of fixing or replacing mine due to low fluid level. It should be > > noted that I didn't "fix" it per se, but gave it a longer life. The > > seals, even if available, wouldn't be worth spending money on when > > this jack only leaks fluid a couple drops per year. > > > > Here's a pic I found so you know which jack I'm talking about: > > http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/3...e/P1010044.JPG > > > > Having topped off hydraulic jacks and other types of chambers before, > > this one turned out to be a bit more diffcult to fill than in past > > experiences. > > > > The symptom was that the jack would 'quick rise' OK, but after about > > 8" of loaded lifting, the functional stroke of the handle would start > > decreasing, and by the time it was near fully lifted, there would > > hardly be any stroke left. > > > > Here's how to refill it (there may be easier ways but I couldn't get > > it to work any other way): > > > > 1) Locate the magnetic parts bin and remove it from the jack frame. > > This will uncover the three threaded plugs that are used to adjust or > > service the jack. Look for the one "by itself"... IOW, two will be > > close together, and the third one will be spaced apart from them. > > Aquire at least one pint of new hydraulic jack oil. Don safety > > apparel and position the jack over some rags or something very > > absorbant. With the jack pad down and the handle valve released, > > unscrew this plug, accurately counting the turns until it is > > completely unthreaded. Do this slowly as fluid will come out under > > slight pressure; it will make a mess. If you pulled out the correct > > plug, it will have a small tip on the end of it that engages with a > > spring inside the plug hole. Be sure to remember the number of > > turns. Mine was threaded about 6.5 turns. > > > > 2) Kneel on the jack frame or otherwise keep it from lifting off the > > ground, then grab the lift pad/saddle with one hand while holding the > > oil bottle in the other hand. Keep in mind that as you lift the pad > > through it's arc, there are braces going through complex motions, so > > keep your fingers clear of this potentially pinchy situation. To > > avoid moving parts, you can grab only the pad and lift up this way, > > since it is made to stay in place (unlike with most jack saddles that > > are designed to interchange easily). > > > > 3) Very slowly lift the pad while drizzling oil into the plug hole. > > As you lift the pad/arm, the fluid level will lower in this hole. If > > you hear an "air sucking" noise, you went too fast and/or didn't add > > enough oil. Slower is better here. > > > > 4) Once you reach the top of the arm's range, you can push it slightly > > further and it will go into the "service lock" position. This will > > hold it up while you complete step 4. Now reinstall the plug > > temporarily, atleast a few turns to make sure it doesn't leak. > > > > 5) "Unlock" the arm and let it fall to the bottom under it's own > > weight and return spring pressure. Tighten the handle valve. Put > > pressure on the pad with one hand so the quick lift feature doesn't > > engage, and pump the jack up as high as it will go before the stroke > > becomes less than 100% effective. > > > > 6) Postured as you were in step 2, grab the pad with one hand and keep > > it in this position. Now open the handle valve with the other hand > > and lower the handle to the floor if it isn't there already. Remove > > the plug again while still holding the pad at this height. Repeat > > steps 3 through 6 until you find that the jack exhibits 100% strokes > > all the way up to full loaded position. This took me more steps than > > I cared to count, but probably because of all the trial and error. I > > would think you vould get it done in about 10 steps. It might take > > 1/2 hour at worst. > > > > I think the internal quick rise feature is why A) there are 3 service > > plugs and B) a standard reservoir fill and bleed wouldn't work for > > me. HTH. > > > > Toyota MDT in MO > > Or you can just pop the rubber plug at the top of the cylinder (visible with the magnetic tray removed), and add oil. I do it al the time until I rebuild it with new seals. I did this with mine and it worked fine for an hour or so, then the plug popped out. It did it twice. Why is this happening? Thank you! Jorge |
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:42:44 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 11:41:15 AM UTC-8, wrote: >> On Sunday, March 1, 2009 at 6:23:08 PM UTC-5, Comboverfish wrote: >> > Way back when, in one or more newsgroups, I suggested the blue 3.5 ton >> > quick rise jack as sold by Sam's Club, to those who were looking for a >> > cheap, functional, and strong floor jack for home use. I wanted to >> > offer some tips I recently discovered when confronted with the problem >> > of fixing or replacing mine due to low fluid level. It should be >> > noted that I didn't "fix" it per se, but gave it a longer life. The >> > seals, even if available, wouldn't be worth spending money on when >> > this jack only leaks fluid a couple drops per year. >> > >> > Here's a pic I found so you know which jack I'm talking about: >> > http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/3...e/P1010044.JPG >> > >> > Having topped off hydraulic jacks and other types of chambers before, >> > this one turned out to be a bit more diffcult to fill than in past >> > experiences. >> > >> > The symptom was that the jack would 'quick rise' OK, but after about >> > 8" of loaded lifting, the functional stroke of the handle would start >> > decreasing, and by the time it was near fully lifted, there would >> > hardly be any stroke left. >> > >> > Here's how to refill it (there may be easier ways but I couldn't get >> > it to work any other way): >> > >> > 1) Locate the magnetic parts bin and remove it from the jack frame. >> > This will uncover the three threaded plugs that are used to adjust or >> > service the jack. Look for the one "by itself"... IOW, two will be >> > close together, and the third one will be spaced apart from them. >> > Aquire at least one pint of new hydraulic jack oil. Don safety >> > apparel and position the jack over some rags or something very >> > absorbant. With the jack pad down and the handle valve released, >> > unscrew this plug, accurately counting the turns until it is >> > completely unthreaded. Do this slowly as fluid will come out under >> > slight pressure; it will make a mess. If you pulled out the correct >> > plug, it will have a small tip on the end of it that engages with a >> > spring inside the plug hole. Be sure to remember the number of >> > turns. Mine was threaded about 6.5 turns. >> > >> > 2) Kneel on the jack frame or otherwise keep it from lifting off the >> > ground, then grab the lift pad/saddle with one hand while holding the >> > oil bottle in the other hand. Keep in mind that as you lift the pad >> > through it's arc, there are braces going through complex motions, so >> > keep your fingers clear of this potentially pinchy situation. To >> > avoid moving parts, you can grab only the pad and lift up this way, >> > since it is made to stay in place (unlike with most jack saddles that >> > are designed to interchange easily). >> > >> > 3) Very slowly lift the pad while drizzling oil into the plug hole. >> > As you lift the pad/arm, the fluid level will lower in this hole. If >> > you hear an "air sucking" noise, you went too fast and/or didn't add >> > enough oil. Slower is better here. >> > >> > 4) Once you reach the top of the arm's range, you can push it slightly >> > further and it will go into the "service lock" position. This will >> > hold it up while you complete step 4. Now reinstall the plug >> > temporarily, atleast a few turns to make sure it doesn't leak. >> > >> > 5) "Unlock" the arm and let it fall to the bottom under it's own >> > weight and return spring pressure. Tighten the handle valve. Put >> > pressure on the pad with one hand so the quick lift feature doesn't >> > engage, and pump the jack up as high as it will go before the stroke >> > becomes less than 100% effective. >> > >> > 6) Postured as you were in step 2, grab the pad with one hand and keep >> > it in this position. Now open the handle valve with the other hand >> > and lower the handle to the floor if it isn't there already. Remove >> > the plug again while still holding the pad at this height. Repeat >> > steps 3 through 6 until you find that the jack exhibits 100% strokes >> > all the way up to full loaded position. This took me more steps than >> > I cared to count, but probably because of all the trial and error. I >> > would think you vould get it done in about 10 steps. It might take >> > 1/2 hour at worst. >> > >> > I think the internal quick rise feature is why A) there are 3 service >> > plugs and B) a standard reservoir fill and bleed wouldn't work for >> > me. HTH. >> > >> > Toyota MDT in MO >> >> Or you can just pop the rubber plug at the top of the cylinder (visible with the magnetic tray removed), and add oil. I do it al the time until I rebuild it with new seals. > >I did this with mine and it worked fine for an hour or so, then the plug popped out. It did it twice. Why is this happening? >Thank you! >Jorge Most likely you overfilled it. If the ram is extended much when you filled it you can put in more then there is room to hold when it's retracted. When the ram was pushed all the way back in the extra oil was forced out the filler hole. |
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