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In a Nutshell, are the additional searches before boarding airplanes
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Bill Funk wrote: > On 24 Aug 2006 23:58:15 -0700, wrote: > > >In a Nutshell, are the additional searches before boarding airplanes > >really "randomized" or are they criminal/racial profiling? > > > > > >East- > > They are certainly not "random". I see them as "randomized". > And, yes, IMO they are profiling; those who look Middle Eastern, or > have ties to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran are singled out *less*, so > as to ensure a small numbber of profiling complaints. > Random is an interesting word. Computers can't make random numbers; > people can't pick things at random. Even fish don't swim at random, > not does lightning strike at random. > Cancer doesn't strike at random, ants don't pick nesting sites at > random. > Not much happens randomly. I would beg to differ. First let us define "random." random - having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective (source: http://www.answers.com/random&r=67) Based on this definition, airport security is most definitely random. > -- > Bill Funk > replace "g" with "a" |
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On 25 Aug 2006 20:38:52 -0700, "Furious George" >
wrote: > >Bill Funk wrote: >> On 24 Aug 2006 23:58:15 -0700, wrote: >> >> >In a Nutshell, are the additional searches before boarding airplanes >> >really "randomized" or are they criminal/racial profiling? >> > >> > >> >East- >> >> They are certainly not "random". I see them as "randomized". >> And, yes, IMO they are profiling; those who look Middle Eastern, or >> have ties to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran are singled out *less*, so >> as to ensure a small numbber of profiling complaints. >> Random is an interesting word. Computers can't make random numbers; >> people can't pick things at random. Even fish don't swim at random, >> not does lightning strike at random. >> Cancer doesn't strike at random, ants don't pick nesting sites at >> random. >> Not much happens randomly. > >I would beg to differ. First let us define "random." > >random - having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective (source: >http://www.answers.com/random&r=67) > >Based on this definition, airport security is most definitely random. > >> -- >> Bill Funk >> replace "g" with "a" There was an interesting article about the real effect of the current airport screening system. Because it is not random but does have some rules (secret of course) about who to single out for extra checking, it allows a group of terrorists to make practice flights to figure out what not to do. A dozen terrorists, each with somewhat different clothing and actions, make several flights thru the airport and based on which of them always gets fingered and which always get thru, they can figure out the system. Then when they want to do something they know how to game the security profile. |
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Furious George wrote:
> Computers can't make random numbers; >>people can't pick things at random. the generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. |
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:40:42 -0700, "brink" >
wrote: > >"Bill Funk" > wrote in message .. . >> On 24 Aug 2006 23:58:15 -0700, wrote: >> >>>In a Nutshell, are the additional searches before boarding airplanes >>>really "randomized" or are they criminal/racial profiling? >>> >>> >>>East- >> >> They are certainly not "random". I see them as "randomized". >> And, yes, IMO they are profiling; those who look Middle Eastern, or >> have ties to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran are singled out *less*, so >> as to ensure a small numbber of profiling complaints. >> Random is an interesting word. Computers can't make random numbers; >> people can't pick things at random. Even fish don't swim at random, >> not does lightning strike at random. >> Cancer doesn't strike at random, ants don't pick nesting sites at >> random. >> Not much happens randomly. > >Coin flips? > >brink > One of the few random things. :-) -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
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On 25 Aug 2006 20:38:52 -0700, "Furious George" >
wrote: > >Bill Funk wrote: >> On 24 Aug 2006 23:58:15 -0700, wrote: >> >> >In a Nutshell, are the additional searches before boarding airplanes >> >really "randomized" or are they criminal/racial profiling? >> > >> > >> >East- >> >> They are certainly not "random". I see them as "randomized". >> And, yes, IMO they are profiling; those who look Middle Eastern, or >> have ties to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran are singled out *less*, so >> as to ensure a small numbber of profiling complaints. >> Random is an interesting word. Computers can't make random numbers; >> people can't pick things at random. Even fish don't swim at random, >> not does lightning strike at random. >> Cancer doesn't strike at random, ants don't pick nesting sites at >> random. >> Not much happens randomly. > >I would beg to differ. First let us define "random." > >random - having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective (source: >http://www.answers.com/random&r=67) > >Based on this definition, airport security is most definitely random. Do you pick cherries as a profession? :-) -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
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Profiling people at airports? Lets play "Spot the Muslim/Terrorist"
shall we? Here's a photo of one of Iran's top soccer stars - would you be able to pick him out as a "Muslim" and therefore a potential terrorist who should be profiled? http://www.teammelli.com/Players/StatsAzizi.htm Here's another Muslim - would you be able to spot him? http://www.votolatino.com.ar/2003/fotos/catstevens.jpg This fellow would obviously be entitled to a free pass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski How about this fellow - oh he must REALLY be one of them sneaky muslims, what with those dark swarthy looks. Why, he's even wearing sheets! http://www.mohandasgandhi.com/ghandi.jpg Course, this fellow is arguably swarthy, but that's because his father is Jamaican ( you know, Axis of Evil Jamaica?) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1731568.stm How about this fellow - no problem letting him on board the airplane, since he's neither a Muslim nor particularly swarthy http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/...arlos-2000.jpg (Carlos the Jackal, FYI) Hmm... Turbans, Beards, funny religious practices. Oh my! These fellows should DEFINITELY be singled out! http://www.pilgrimage-india.com/indi...-religion.html And this guy - a Christian fellow named George. Nah, can't be a terrorist. Let him on board without a second glance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Habash Oh wait - what about this guy. Why, with all that red hair, he's obviously Irish! http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...q/al-douri.htm Yes the sooner we stick to profiling them suspiciously swarthy "Muslim" people the safer we'll all be. Amen. Bill Funk wrote: > On 24 Aug 2006 23:58:15 -0700, wrote: > > >In a Nutshell, are the additional searches before boarding airplanes > >really "randomized" or are they criminal/racial profiling? > > > > > >East- > > They are certainly not "random". I see them as "randomized". > And, yes, IMO they are profiling; those who look Middle Eastern, or > have ties to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Iran are singled out *less*, so > as to ensure a small numbber of profiling complaints. > Random is an interesting word. Computers can't make random numbers; > people can't pick things at random. Even fish don't swim at random, > not does lightning strike at random. > Cancer doesn't strike at random, ants don't pick nesting sites at > random. > Not much happens randomly. > -- > Bill Funk > replace "g" with "a" |
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On 26 Aug 2006 15:30:51 -0700, "thelasian" >
wrote: >Profiling people at airports? Lets play "Spot the Muslim/Terrorist" >shall we? Let's not. I realize that children like you feel that one counter example allegedly disproves entire theories, but the adults in the world know better. One example I am sure you are familiar with is the media's leftist view that since most muslims are not terrorists we should view all of them as model citizens. |
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