Saw the new '07 Sebring Thursday

On 21 Oct 2006 20:50:35 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer >
wrote:

writes:
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>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>
>My daily driver is a 1978 Chrysler Newport.

Is it as nice as this one?

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...4/49198054.htm

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Scott in Florida

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:20:48 GMT, Scott in Florida
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>On 21 Oct 2006 20:50:35 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer >
>wrote:
>
writes:
>>>
>>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>>
>>My daily driver is a 1978 Chrysler Newport.
>
>Is it as nice as this one?
>
>http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...4/49198054.htm


yeesh..that takes "butt ugly" to a whole new dimension.

IMHO of course. :-)

On 21 Oct 2006 20:50:35 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer >
graced this newsgroup with:

writes:
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>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>
>My daily driver is a 1978 Chrysler Newport.


I've owned older cars as well (like a 67 Dodge Dart). And quite
honestly, they may still be running but the ones I've owned and the
ones I've seen are, figuratively speaking, total crap.

They handle like a boat, rattle like dump truck, drink gas like
flushing a toilet and the fit and finish would make a blind man blush.

And don't even get me started on the paint.

No thanks, older American cars are like older Vettes. Great to look
at, but you have no idea what's involved to keep them looking nice and
on the road.

Scott in Florida > writes:

> On 21 Oct 2006 20:50:35 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer >
> wrote:
>
> writes:
> >>
> >> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
> >> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
> >
> >My daily driver is a 1978 Chrysler Newport.
>
> Is it as nice as this one?
>
> http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...4/49198054.htm

No, I can only drool with envy! Well, that and get it into the body
shop for a long-promised vacation....
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

wrote:

>I've owned older cars as well (like a 67 Dodge Dart). And quite
>honestly, they may still be running but the ones I've owned and the
>ones I've seen are, figuratively speaking, total crap.
>
>They handle like a boat, rattle like dump truck, drink gas like
>flushing a toilet and the fit and finish would make a blind man blush.
>
>And don't even get me started on the paint.
>
>No thanks, older American cars are like older Vettes. Great to look
>at, but you have no idea what's involved to keep them looking nice and
>on the road.

Yeah, I used to be a Mustang enthusiast, and have owned several of the
65-70 'Stangs. But once a got my first "modern" car (an '88 CRX Si),
I just could not go back to those beautiful-looking, ****ty handling,
oil-stinking, primitive, cars.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:47:07 GMT, Hachiroku > wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:18:54 +0000, Dave wrote:

>> Well my mom's 1987 Chrysler 5th avenue is going on 20 years and has
>> 135,000 miles. Really not alot of miles in the past few years but get
>> this, it even has the original exhaust.
>
>Every once in a while they screw up and make one RIGHT! <snip>

M-bodies were THE hardy car of the late Chrysler Corporation.

I replaced my OE exhaust on my '86 5th with 2" aluminized behind the
converter, which instantly caused highway fuel economy to jump up and
the cats to run cooler with lower emissions. These cars weren't
"pretty" like the gussied up crap from Roger Smith's GM, but they were
far, far more reliable cars. Even in the darkest days and during the
Iacocca-led charge toward FWD, Chrysler could still build a rugged,
dependable vehicle. That's why a vast majority of municipal fleets
and police fleets across the country stuck with the M-body right to
the end. When the M-body was retired in '89 and they were forced to
go to the "vitamin pill" Caprice from GM, maintenance expenses and
failure rates skyrocketed. After one fleet, most never went back to
GM for anything, and GM was excluded from many bidding competitions,
leaving the Crown Vic the '90s' "cop car" by default.

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:41:34 -0400, wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:20:48 GMT, Scott in Florida
> graced this newsgroup with:
>
>>On 21 Oct 2006 20:50:35 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer >
>>wrote:
>>
writes:
>>>>
>>>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>>>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>>>
>>>My daily driver is a 1978 Chrysler Newport.
>>
>>Is it as nice as this one?
>>
>>http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...4/49198054.htm
>
>
>yeesh..that takes "butt ugly" to a whole new dimension. <snip>

Last of the "oversized" Chryslers; the M-bodies would start taking
over shortly after this.

The one in the ad, being from Pennsylvania, is probably a rust bucket
made to look nice, unless it's been garageded 99% of the time. Many
senior Chyslers of that era suffered from the same rust problems that
the horrible F-bodies did, making good ones quite rare.

Seen yesterday in VG shape: 1978 Aspen 4 door sedan, which has all
the signs of where the M-body really came from! I took a look at the
car with the proud owner's permission...not a speck of rust anywhere,
thanks to use of road salt being illegal out here.

Dave wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 18:16:40 GMT, Some O > graced this
>> newsgroup with:
>>
>>> In article >,
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 02:09:02 GMT, Some O > graced this
>>>> newsgroup with:
>>>> and this has to do with Nissans because.....?
>>> The new Sebring doesn't quite meet my requirements; obvious from my
>>> two negatives.
>>> Of those other cars I mentioned (Altima is a Nissan isn't it?) a few
>>> do appear meet my requirements and I'll look closer at them.
>>> Since I keep a car for up to 10 years, I evaluate them closely.
>>
>>
>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>
>
> Well my mom's 1987 Chrysler 5th avenue is going on 20 years and has
> 135,000 miles. Really not alot of miles in the past few years but get
> this, it even has the original exhaust.

So does my mother-in-laws 1987 Aries.

I have been on all sides of the automotive business, designer, retailer and
fleet maintenance company owner for over a 55 year period. I have never
owned a domestic, or foreign, car that was ever problematic and I have owned
several dozens of them. ALL manufactures are building good quality, long
lasting, dependable vehicle today. One should pick the model
that best suits their needs and buy the one that best suits ones budget,
period.

One would expect that a guy with a Ph.D. in anything, let alone his field,
would be smart enough to use an allies and not post all of his personal
information in a NG filled with kooks. LOL

mike hunt


"Joe Pfeiffer" > wrote in message
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> writes:
>>
>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>
> My daily driver is a 1978 Chrysler Newport.
> --
(EDITED, out of compassion, Mike)

> Joseph J. PXXX, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (555) A46- XXXX
> Department of XXXXX FAX -- (555) A46-XXXX
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I have a 1971 Pinto with 300K on the clock, that looks and runs like new.
Nearly all original, but the exhaust was changed once. LOL


mike hunt


> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> well..why you would even think of a domestic car if you're looking at
>>> something to last 10 years is beyond me.
>>
>>
>>Well my mom's 1987 Chrysler 5th avenue is going on 20 years and has
>>135,000 miles. Really not alot of miles in the past few years but get
>>this, it even has the original exhaust.
>
> LOL...