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"Joey Tribiani" > wrote in message
news:txV3e.99912$755.87570@lakeread05... > > "jjs" > wrote in message > ... >> So what. You aren't supposed to use the PARKING break for parking. > > yeah and the "park" position on an automatic trans is for going backwards > too... No, it's just for emergencies. Real men move forward. >> (And he >> called it the E-Brake, right?) >> > > yes he did...and from what i gather that is what he was told it was for, > not > for parking...hence my post... It ain't for parking, except briefly. Tim showed one example. >it wasn't exactly directed to you as much as > to bill....they are hosing him and he and everyone here sees that.... Well, yeah, we all know that. (My man, you don't sound so good. Are you sick today?) |
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"Tim Rogers" > wrote in message
... > "Bill Berckman" > wrote in message > oups.com... > > > > My Emergency brake on my Daily Driver 95 Escort Wagon was not holding > > the car and needed some adjustment.............snip > > > ............I replaced the three part cable assembly on my Nissan 4x4 truck > last year. <<SNIP>> One thing that threw > me for a loop is that I had to readjust the tightness of the cables in the two spots where the slack can be removed at about a month after the > installation. I think that there must be a little stretch that new cables > have after their installed. It's been perfectly OK now since last fall and I > no longer have to worry about it rolling into the water when I'm winching my > boat out of the water on to its trailer. > EXACTLY! New cables stretch. Some stretch a lot. Doesn't matter if it's the brake cable on your bicycle or the clutch cable on your VW or the brake cables on your Escort, it's gonna stretch and need re-adjustment after it settles in. My gauge to when the rear brakes on my bus need adjusting is how far out the parking brake lever comes. They go together. I suggest that the new brake shoes have also worn in. I assumed that the Escort has 4 wheel discs??? I don't know the mechanism that they use for parking brake, but if it has three cables, it leads to the assumption that it has rear drums. If this is the case (rear drums) then you might well solve the problem by backing the car and slamming the (regular) brakes a few times to get that slack out. I also expect that the parking brake holds the car from rolling forward much better than from rolling backward, but most reverse gears are so weak, backing up the hill is not a viable option. There's slack that occurs as new parts seat in. It needs to be compensated for. I wouldn't be surpised if there is no way to compensate in a late model inexpesive car (even though I cannot afford one!) Maybe go to a frame alignment shop and have them stretch the thing a few mm's! -BaH |
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"jjs" > wrote in message ... > > > > yes he did...and from what i gather that is what he was told it was for, > > not > > for parking...hence my post... > > It ain't for parking, except briefly. Tim showed one example. don't take my word for it...check any owners manual and let us know what they suggest....*ALWAYS* apply the parking brake when exiting the vehicle...and they even go on to say that in an automatic you should shift to neutral to set the parking brake to keep the stress caused by the wieght of the vehicle off the trans... > >it wasn't exactly directed to you as much as > > to bill....they are hosing him and he and everyone here sees that.... > > Well, yeah, we all know that. > > (My man, you don't sound so good. Are you sick today?) > i'm fine, thanks for your concern... |
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On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 14:34:24 -0400, "Joey Tribiani" >
wrote: > >"jjs" > wrote in message >> It ain't for parking, except briefly. Tim showed one example. > >don't take my word for it...check any owners manual and let us know what >they suggest....*ALWAYS* apply the parking brake when exiting the >vehicle...and they even go on to say that in an automatic you should shift >to neutral to set the parking brake to keep the stress caused by the wieght >of the vehicle off the trans... > Wow, Chris. You and this other guy must be idiots. This other guy says: Fairfax, Va.: Should we use parking brake all the time? Or putting car into parking shift is enough? Pat Goss: Park is never enough. Always use the parking brake. The proper procedure is apply the parking brake then put the gear selector into park. This will place all the load on the brakes rather than the transmission. "Pat Goss has worked on cars for more than 40 years. He owns a car repair company that bears his name, has authored numerous books on auto maintenance, and makes weekly appearances on Motorweek, a PBS television program." Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Oct22.html Ol' JJ has been working on cars for a living for at least 50-60 years now and he says you should not use the parking brake for parking so Chris, you and this other guy are obviously IDIOTS. Right, JJ? You have been working on cars for a living and have written books on the subject and appear regularly on television giving car advice, right? JJ is obviously NOT an IDIOT running off at the mouth. Chris and Pat Goss are OBVIOUSLY just stupid and completely off-base here. Right, JJ? Right? Is that what you're saying? Huh? Right? --- "There's nothing wrong with a little shooting as long as the right people get shot." - Inspector Harry Callahan |
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The think that I am finding out about shops like Meineke as Ben said,
they compete on price, and the person that suffers is the customer. I guess VW parts are similar. A guy like John Connolly that offers tech advise, service and guarantees after the sale, has to compete with some guy with a Yahoo store selling the lowest quality parts ever to come out of Brazil. Which would you rather have? |
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"Shag" > wrote in message > > > > Wow, Chris. You and this other guy must be idiots. This other guy > says: > might be...i just try to help out sometimes...<shrug> |
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I think I may know (but possibly not) where the term parking brake
originated. I remember when I was 9 or 10 (1970-71) and we were at a family gathering at my great uncles house. It was mostly old people so my brother and I went outside to play and wound up in his Two car garage. He had a fairly new 1966 Bel Air, and also kept his old 1953 Pontiac which was still in good shape since it had been in the garage. The 53 was an early automatic. The funny thing about this automatis was that then there was no Park gear as in modern cars. You simply used your parking brake to hold the car. This is why I am guessing it was called a parking brake. The gear selection was also not in the typical R,N,D,2,1 fashion. My parents bought a new Chevrolet Biscayne in 1959 and by this time it did have a Park gear in the same pattern that is still used today. Back when the Automatics were new in the 50's the automakers all had some fancy name for them. Chevrolet called theirs Powerglide, and Oldsmobile called theirs Dynaflow and American Motors called theirs Torqueflite and you got a Fordomatic on a Ford vehicle. For some reason the early automatics did not do as well in the snow as their manual counterparts, so there was a saying about the Chevrolet product that said "Slip and Slide with Powerglide. These auto transmissions were also nicknamed slushboxes due to their less than stellar acceleration. |
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"Joey Tribiani" > wrote in message
news:XGW3e.99916$755.45941@lakeread05... > don't take my word for it...check any owners manual and let us know what > they suggest....*ALWAYS* apply the parking brake when exiting the > vehicle... Maybe you could show me some citations along with the YELLING. > and they even go on to say that in an automatic you should shift > to neutral to set the parking brake to keep the stress caused by the > wieght > of the vehicle off the trans... I guess Ford thinks differently. "!(warning symbol)... Make sure that the gearshift is securely latched in Park (P)." |
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"Busahaulic" > wrote in message
... > EXACTLY! New cables stretch. Some stretch a lot. [...] Yep. Never found a new cable that was stressed that didn't stretch, for example "parking" brakes. (What did VW call that brake in Bug? Anybody got an original manual?). |
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My car is at the mechanics right now with the owners manual in it. If nobody replies by then I'll look it up and see
what they called it exactly. "jjs" > wrote in message ... > "Busahaulic" > wrote in message > ... > > > EXACTLY! New cables stretch. Some stretch a lot. [...] > > Yep. Never found a new cable that was stressed that didn't stretch, for > example "parking" brakes. (What did VW call that brake in Bug? Anybody got > an original manual?). > > |
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