Best Supercharger for 04 GT ?

FastAutoSports wrote:
> LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
> because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
> games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
> or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
> think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
> satify your need for importance.

You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
called supporters. This should already be public information if they do
indeed post here in the group.

> I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
> them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
> By an ethical member and enthusiast.

One of your many supporters?

> Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
> long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
> have not figured out what it is.

I figured you out from your first few posts.

> Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
> 600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
> I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
> high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
> wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
> well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
> for whatever is manufactured.

Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace. All
this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert on
supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol' thread.

> Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
> WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
> enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
> thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
> thier vehicles. I just make it happen.

Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
recommending a POS part to your customers.

BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower kits.

> Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
> time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
> their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
> a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.

I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there is
a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.

> Have a good evening.

Wouldn't have it any other way.

> Your ****ing Contest Buddy.

Sorry, I can't say the same.

> -Tom
>
> PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
> could get off this dead horse.

I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.

> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>
>>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
>>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in question
>>then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll read and
>>keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding that we just
>>don't take well to vendors making recommendations for parts they sell
>>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding the
>>hen house.
>>
>>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack of
>>knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our position to
>>not trust vendors who use this group to mine for customers.
>>
>>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
>>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne Bell?
>>
>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>
>>>People People People,
>>>
>>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a great
>>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
>>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its kinda
>>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if someone
>>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
>>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
>>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
>>>
>>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
>>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
>>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Hell,
>>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
>>>
>>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
>>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
>>>sense" for me
>>>
>>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
>>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
>>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
>>>maybe they share your opinions.
>>>
>>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
>>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
>>>
>>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I gave
>>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
>>>
>>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
>>>flies on, well you know...............
>>>
>>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
>>>
>>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
>>>
>>>Have a good evening.
>>>
>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>
> wrote in message .com>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Seconded.
>>>>
>>>>-Mike
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying to
>>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about the
>>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes me
>>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general. We're
>>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with each
>>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am always
>>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you don't
>>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response toward
>>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe I'm
>>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
>>>>>
>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is made
>>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we have
>>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just isnt
>>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along with
>>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate, order
>>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an aviation
>>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending your
>>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our politicians
>>>>>>say the enemy is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
>>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
>>>>>>matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
> wrote in message
>>>>
digy.com>...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've heard
>>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research &
>>>>
>>>>speaking
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they are
>>>>
>>>>doing. A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car & runs like a
>>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am thoroughly
>>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as Michael
>>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at the cost
>>>>
>>>>of a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower from any
>>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need more
>>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB blower for
>>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine than
>>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you add all
>>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their kits the
>>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me that
>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>GT,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford Mustang
>>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than the
>>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three have very
>>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences and how
>>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>
s.earthlink.net>...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
>>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
>>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
>>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>GT

While I personally don't have one. My buddy has a 99 GT with the
STEEDA (www.steeda.com) supercharger. It is awesome. Easy to install
and fast.

OK, whatever makes you happy. LOL. I just don't have to prove anything
to you

As far as my whatever sells comment, I don't sell junk anyways, so
what you want to say or think about that doesn't bother me in the
least. I cater to the wide range of enthusiasts, from the 16 year
that got his first car, to the successful 60 year old businesswoman
showing off her Mach 1 and Factory Five.

While you want to keep egging on a powerdyne issue,thats odd because
for being people that supposedly have been manufacturing "crap", they
are doing pretty good mass producing and selling them. Obviously the
millions of other enthusiasts that have them installed in there
'stangs don't seem to have a problem giving thier money to Powerdyne.
Maybe you should go on a negative campaign or something to try to shut
them down if they are so ****ty.

My customers come first, and thier experiences with my company,
warehouses and products speak for themselves. My customers know where
I stand, and how I treat them. I don't treat them like a number. And I
don't push them into something they don't need or want.

What's really funny, is that I started this business literally as a
way to get more parts to further modify the Mustang my brother in law
and I have bought, previously owned by Dennis of CCM. Then I hooked up
my buddies and their buddies and then we finally had to get all the
legal stuff to be real with the Commonwealth of Virginia, because they
love taxes. And things havent stopped since. Since we don't really
need the money, or care to do a whole lot of advertising, we don't
have to charge as much most of our items. But that is starting to
change unfortunately, since most Manufactures have a Minimum Advertise
Price agreement they hold you to. But I can still give the hook up.

BTW, my 'stang currently has a Paxton, but I guess those are ****ty
too, huh.

Well anyways, I have other things to do and I am bored and sick of
this back and forth that you want to do. As far as my service to our
country, well I do it because I want to, I enjoy it, I enjoy the
people, I enjoy helping and training Allies, and I am proud of it.
Nothing is a bigger rush than being on the flight deck of a nuclear
aircraft carrier. Not even a Cobra Five or Viper on the track.

My apologies to all the folks that I have seemed to offended or
whatnot.

Jack, Bob, Stephanie, Travis, Joe, well you guys know who you are,
lol, can you believe this ****, thanks and I am gonna kill you guys
next weekend, lol

Travis-- Call me on the cell tomorrow about that stuff we were talking
about this morning. I will be back about 330 or so.

-Tom







"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
> FastAutoSports wrote:
> > LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
> > because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
> > games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
> > or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
> > think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
> > satify your need for importance.
>
> You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
> called supporters. This should already be public information if they do
> indeed post here in the group.
>
> > I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
> > them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
> > By an ethical member and enthusiast.
>
> One of your many supporters?
>
> > Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
> > long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
> > have not figured out what it is.
>
> I figured you out from your first few posts.
>
> > Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
> > 600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
> > I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
> > high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
> > wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
> > well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
> > for whatever is manufactured.
>
> Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace. All
> this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert on
> supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol' thread.
>
> > Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
> > WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
> > enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
> > thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
> > thier vehicles. I just make it happen.
>
> Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
> sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
> make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
> choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
> recommending a POS part to your customers.
>
> BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
> My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
> even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower kits.
>
> > Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
> > time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
> > their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
> > a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.
>
> I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there is
> a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
> However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
> screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.
>
> > Have a good evening.
>
> Wouldn't have it any other way.
>
> > Your ****ing Contest Buddy.
>
> Sorry, I can't say the same.
>
> > -Tom
> >
> > PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
> > could get off this dead horse.
>
> I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
> you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.
>
> > "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
> >>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in question
> >>then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll read and
> >>keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding that we just
> >>don't take well to vendors making recommendations for parts they sell
> >>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding the
> >>hen house.
> >>
> >>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack of
> >>knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our position to
> >>not trust vendors who use this group to mine for customers.
> >>
> >>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
> >>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne Bell?
> >>
> >>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>
> >>>People People People,
> >>>
> >>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a great
> >>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
> >>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its kinda
> >>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if someone
> >>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
> >>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
> >>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
> >>>
> >>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
> >>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
> >>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Hell,
> >>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
> >>>
> >>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
> >>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
> >>>sense" for me
> >>>
> >>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
> >>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
> >>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
> >>>maybe they share your opinions.
> >>>
> >>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
> >>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
> >>>
> >>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I gave
> >>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
> >>>
> >>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
> >>>flies on, well you know...............
> >>>
> >>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
> >>>
> >>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
> >>>
> >>>Have a good evening.
> >>>
> >>>-Tom
> >>>
> >>>
> > wrote in message .com>...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Seconded.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> >>>>Cold air intake
> >>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
> >>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> >>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
> >>>>Hi-speed fan switch
> >>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
> >>>>Subframe connectors
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying to
> >>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about the
> >>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes me
> >>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general. We're
> >>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with each
> >>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am always
> >>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you don't
> >>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response toward
> >>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe I'm
> >>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is made
> >>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we have
> >>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just isnt
> >>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along with
> >>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate, order
> >>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an aviation
> >>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending your
> >>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our politicians
> >>>>>>say the enemy is.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
> >>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
> >>>>>>matter.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-Tom
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/
>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> > wrote in message
> >>>>
> digy.com>...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've heard
> >>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research &
> >>>>
> >>>>speaking
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they are
> >>>>
> >>>>doing. A
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car & runs like a
> >>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am thoroughly
> >>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as Michael
> >>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at the cost
> >>>>
> >>>>of a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower from any
> >>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-Mike
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> >>>>>>>Cold air intake
> >>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
> >>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> >>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
> >>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
> >>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
> >>>>>>>Subframe connectors
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need more
> >>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB blower for
> >>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine than
> >>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you add all
> >>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their kits the
> >>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me that
> >>>>
> >>>>you
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>GT,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford Mustang
> >>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than the
> >>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three have very
> >>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences and how
> >>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>-Tom
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/
>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
> >>>>>>>
> s.earthlink.net>...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
> >>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
> >>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
> >>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>GT

Does this mean you're leaving? Praise God!!!!

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors


"FastAutoSports" > wrote in message
m...
> OK, whatever makes you happy. LOL. I just don't have to prove anything
> to you
>
> As far as my whatever sells comment, I don't sell junk anyways, so
> what you want to say or think about that doesn't bother me in the
> least. I cater to the wide range of enthusiasts, from the 16 year
> that got his first car, to the successful 60 year old businesswoman
> showing off her Mach 1 and Factory Five.
>
> While you want to keep egging on a powerdyne issue,thats odd because
> for being people that supposedly have been manufacturing "crap", they
> are doing pretty good mass producing and selling them. Obviously the
> millions of other enthusiasts that have them installed in there
> 'stangs don't seem to have a problem giving thier money to Powerdyne.
> Maybe you should go on a negative campaign or something to try to shut
> them down if they are so ****ty.
>
> My customers come first, and thier experiences with my company,
> warehouses and products speak for themselves. My customers know where
> I stand, and how I treat them. I don't treat them like a number. And I
> don't push them into something they don't need or want.
>
> What's really funny, is that I started this business literally as a
> way to get more parts to further modify the Mustang my brother in law
> and I have bought, previously owned by Dennis of CCM. Then I hooked up
> my buddies and their buddies and then we finally had to get all the
> legal stuff to be real with the Commonwealth of Virginia, because they
> love taxes. And things havent stopped since. Since we don't really
> need the money, or care to do a whole lot of advertising, we don't
> have to charge as much most of our items. But that is starting to
> change unfortunately, since most Manufactures have a Minimum Advertise
> Price agreement they hold you to. But I can still give the hook up.
>
> BTW, my 'stang currently has a Paxton, but I guess those are ****ty
> too, huh.
>
> Well anyways, I have other things to do and I am bored and sick of
> this back and forth that you want to do. As far as my service to our
> country, well I do it because I want to, I enjoy it, I enjoy the
> people, I enjoy helping and training Allies, and I am proud of it.
> Nothing is a bigger rush than being on the flight deck of a nuclear
> aircraft carrier. Not even a Cobra Five or Viper on the track.
>
> My apologies to all the folks that I have seemed to offended or
> whatnot.
>
> Jack, Bob, Stephanie, Travis, Joe, well you guys know who you are,
> lol, can you believe this ****, thanks and I am gonna kill you guys
> next weekend, lol
>
> Travis-- Call me on the cell tomorrow about that stuff we were talking
> about this morning. I will be back about 330 or so.
>
> -Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
>...
> > FastAutoSports wrote:
> > > LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
> > > because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
> > > games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
> > > or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
> > > think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
> > > satify your need for importance.
> >
> > You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
> > called supporters. This should already be public information if they do
> > indeed post here in the group.
> >
> > > I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
> > > them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
> > > By an ethical member and enthusiast.
> >
> > One of your many supporters?
> >
> > > Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
> > > long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
> > > have not figured out what it is.
> >
> > I figured you out from your first few posts.
> >
> > > Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
> > > 600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
> > > I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
> > > high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
> > > wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
> > > well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
> > > for whatever is manufactured.
> >
> > Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace. All
> > this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert on
> > supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol'
thread.
> >
> > > Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
> > > WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
> > > enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
> > > thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
> > > thier vehicles. I just make it happen.
> >
> > Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
> > sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
> > make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
> > choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
> > recommending a POS part to your customers.
> >
> > BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
> > My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
> > even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower
kits.
> >
> > > Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
> > > time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
> > > their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
> > > a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.
> >
> > I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there is
> > a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
> > However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
> > screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.
> >
> > > Have a good evening.
> >
> > Wouldn't have it any other way.
> >
> > > Your ****ing Contest Buddy.
> >
> > Sorry, I can't say the same.
> >
> > > -Tom
> > >
> > > PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
> > > could get off this dead horse.
> >
> > I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
> > you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.
> >
> > > "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
>...
> > >
> > >>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
> > >>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in question
> > >>then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll read and
> > >>keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding that we
just
> > >>don't take well to vendors making recommendations for parts they sell
> > >>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding
the
> > >>hen house.
> > >>
> > >>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack of
> > >>knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our position
to
> > >>not trust vendors who use this group to mine for customers.
> > >>
> > >>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
> > >>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne
Bell?
> > >>
> > >>FastAutoSports wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>People People People,
> > >>>
> > >>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a great
> > >>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
> > >>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its
kinda
> > >>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if someone
> > >>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
> > >>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
> > >>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
> > >>>
> > >>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
> > >>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
> > >>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Hell,
> > >>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
> > >>>
> > >>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
> > >>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
> > >>>sense" for me
> > >>>
> > >>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
> > >>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
> > >>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
> > >>>maybe they share your opinions.
> > >>>
> > >>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
> > >>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
> > >>>
> > >>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I gave
> > >>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
> > >>>
> > >>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
> > >>>flies on, well you know...............
> > >>>
> > >>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
> > >>>
> > >>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
> > >>>
> > >>>Have a good evening.
> > >>>
> > >>>-Tom
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > > wrote in message
.com>...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Seconded.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>-Mike
> > >>>>
> > >>>>--
> > >>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> > >>>>Cold air intake
> > >>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
> > >>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> > >>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
> > >>>>Hi-speed fan switch
> > >>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
> > >>>>Subframe connectors
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying
to
> > >>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about
the
> > >>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes me
> > >>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general.
We're
> > >>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with
each
> > >>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am
always
> > >>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you
don't
> > >>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response
toward
> > >>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe I'm
> > >>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is
made
> > >>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we
have
> > >>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just isnt
> > >>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along
with
> > >>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate,
order
> > >>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an
aviation
> > >>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending
your
> > >>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our
politicians
> > >>>>>>say the enemy is.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
> > >>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
> > >>>>>>matter.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>-Tom
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > > wrote in message
> > >>>>
> > digy.com>...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've
heard
> > >>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research
&
> > >>>>
> > >>>>speaking
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they
are
> > >>>>
> > >>>>doing. A
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car & runs
like a
> > >>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am
thoroughly
> > >>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as
Michael
> > >>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at
the cost
> > >>>>
> > >>>>of a
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower from
any
> > >>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>-Mike
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>--
> > >>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> > >>>>>>>Cold air intake
> > >>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
> > >>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> > >>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
> > >>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
> > >>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
> > >>>>>>>Subframe connectors
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need
more
> > >>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB
blower for
> > >>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine
than
> > >>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you
add all
> > >>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their kits
the
> > >>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me
that
> > >>>>
> > >>>>you
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>GT,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford
Mustang
> > >>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than
the
> > >>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three
have very
> > >>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences
and how
> > >>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>-Tom
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>
> > s.earthlink.net>...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking
into
> > >>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell
intercooled
> > >>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from
some
> > >>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>GT

You need to understand that parts sellers come to this group quite often
thinking they have found a new place to hock their products. They do
just like you have done which is blatantly advertise their stuff. Then
they find that most of us don't appreciate it and make it clear to the
poster. Now you are at a cross roads. You can either keep up the
irritating behavior, leave never to heard from again or you can stay and
become a contributing member and knock off the salesman crap. No one
here (including myself) will have any issues should you decide to
frequent our group and leave the sales pitches behind. We have a
gentleman here that sells parts but doesn't push himself on the rest of
us. In fact, many of us actually seek him out when a part is needed.
He is a class act. This proves that you can strike a balance here that
works for the benefit of everyone, including yourself. What direction
you go from here is completely up to you.

FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds with
bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported GT-40X heads
(64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam; Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm
Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers; 42# fuel injectors;
complete upgraded fuel system from tank to injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller
rockers; high flow water pump; three row radiator; SMC water/alcohol
injection system (aka intercooler in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch;
2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda
shifter; J&S Safeguard; digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL
ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug conversion with SN95 front
spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated slotted rotors with carbon
fiber break pads; relocated battery to hatch area; Autometer boost and
fuel pressure gauges mounted on the A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe
connectors. I've probably missed a few things but those are the highlights.

FastAutoSports wrote:
> OK, whatever makes you happy. LOL. I just don't have to prove anything
> to you
>
> As far as my whatever sells comment, I don't sell junk anyways, so
> what you want to say or think about that doesn't bother me in the
> least. I cater to the wide range of enthusiasts, from the 16 year
> that got his first car, to the successful 60 year old businesswoman
> showing off her Mach 1 and Factory Five.
>
> While you want to keep egging on a powerdyne issue,thats odd because
> for being people that supposedly have been manufacturing "crap", they
> are doing pretty good mass producing and selling them. Obviously the
> millions of other enthusiasts that have them installed in there
> 'stangs don't seem to have a problem giving thier money to Powerdyne.
> Maybe you should go on a negative campaign or something to try to shut
> them down if they are so ****ty.
>
> My customers come first, and thier experiences with my company,
> warehouses and products speak for themselves. My customers know where
> I stand, and how I treat them. I don't treat them like a number. And I
> don't push them into something they don't need or want.
>
> What's really funny, is that I started this business literally as a
> way to get more parts to further modify the Mustang my brother in law
> and I have bought, previously owned by Dennis of CCM. Then I hooked up
> my buddies and their buddies and then we finally had to get all the
> legal stuff to be real with the Commonwealth of Virginia, because they
> love taxes. And things havent stopped since. Since we don't really
> need the money, or care to do a whole lot of advertising, we don't
> have to charge as much most of our items. But that is starting to
> change unfortunately, since most Manufactures have a Minimum Advertise
> Price agreement they hold you to. But I can still give the hook up.
>
> BTW, my 'stang currently has a Paxton, but I guess those are ****ty
> too, huh.
>
> Well anyways, I have other things to do and I am bored and sick of
> this back and forth that you want to do. As far as my service to our
> country, well I do it because I want to, I enjoy it, I enjoy the
> people, I enjoy helping and training Allies, and I am proud of it.
> Nothing is a bigger rush than being on the flight deck of a nuclear
> aircraft carrier. Not even a Cobra Five or Viper on the track.
>
> My apologies to all the folks that I have seemed to offended or
> whatnot.
>
> Jack, Bob, Stephanie, Travis, Joe, well you guys know who you are,
> lol, can you believe this ****, thanks and I am gonna kill you guys
> next weekend, lol
>
> Travis-- Call me on the cell tomorrow about that stuff we were talking
> about this morning. I will be back about 330 or so.
>
> -Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>
>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>
>>>LMAO, are we like in High School or something. I did what I did
>>>because I was requested. And NO I am not going to play your childish
>>>games and give you names and phone numbers LOL I mean, are you a WD
>>>or something? Want references? LOL come one man! LOL. So no, I don't
>>>think so. I am not going to do something unlawful nor unethical to
>>>satify your need for importance.
>>
>>You just don't get it. All I want is the posting name of these so
>>called supporters. This should already be public information if they do
>>indeed post here in the group.
>>
>>
>>>I respect this group's Charter. Rules are rules and I have followed
>>>them since they were brought to my attention. Of course, not by you.
>>>By an ethical member and enthusiast.
>>
>>One of your many supporters?
>>
>>
>>>Like I said, lets go to Australia, if you can get off that computer
>>>long enough, since you obviously want a ****ing contest, but still
>>>have not figured out what it is.
>>
>>I figured you out from your first few posts.
>>
>>
>>>Oh one more thing. There is NOT one person who is an expert on over
>>>600 Manufacturer lines. Not even me. I am just man enough to admit it.
>>>I never said I couldn't find out. If I can keep our country's
>>>high-tech 10's of millions of dollar Jets flying with thier miles of
>>>wiring, HP measured in thousands of pounds of thrust, Mach 2 speed,
>>>well I am sure I can find a part number and get reliability statistics
>>>for whatever is manufactured.
>>
>>Don't get tennis elbow from patting yourself on the back there ace. All
>>this "Grade A" maintenance work evidently hasn't made you an expert on
>>supercharging Mustangs which is what is important in this little ol' thread.
>>
>>
>>>Everyone has thier favorite products. Do you know what mine are?
>>>WHATEVER sells, because I am here to provide a service to the
>>>enthusiast. What they want, is what I can get. Most enthusiasts are
>>>thier own experts, do thier own research, they know what they want for
>>>thier vehicles. I just make it happen.
>>
>>Thanks for confirming again what I suspected. You only want to sell,
>>sell, sell. Let me guess, you probably like selling those parts you
>>make the most profit on too. Doesn't matter if they're not the best
>>choice for the buyer. You probably don't loose any sleep over
>>recommending a POS part to your customers.
>>
>>BTW, I noticed you completely dodged the Kenne Bell questions I asked.
>>My guess is you have never sold a Kenne Bell blower and probably don't
>>even know that KB lets VERY FEW third party vendors sell their blower kits.
>>
>>
>>>Have a good evening, and please don't stay on the computer all the
>>>time. Its not good for your wrists, eyesite and computers along with
>>>their monitors emits a small amount of radiation. Hopefully you have
>>>a flatscreen, cuts back on the radiation alittle.
>>
>>I see you must also be an expert on medical matters too. I bet there is
>>a news group that could benefit from your expertise in this area.
>>However I doubt you would bother posting there unless you sell flat
>>screen monitors and wrist pads in addition to Mustang parts.
>>
>>
>>>Have a good evening.
>>
>>Wouldn't have it any other way.
>>
>>
>>>Your ****ing Contest Buddy.
>>
>>Sorry, I can't say the same.
>>
>>
>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>PS Whenever you feel that you have graduated from High School, we
>>>could get off this dead horse.
>>
>>I've more than graduated from high school, grasshopper. My guess is
>>you're still struggling through Business Ethics 101.
>>
>>
>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message >...
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you don't know what works well and what doesn't then you shouldn't
>>>>post like you are an authority. If I don't know the topic in question
>>>>then I don't reply or I qualify my answer. Otherwise, I'll read and
>>>>keep quite because I might learn something. You're finding that we just
>>>>don't take well to vendors making recommendations for parts they sell
>>>
>>>>from a for profit business. It's the equivalent of the fox guarding the
>>>
>>>>hen house.
>>>>
>>>>Having just admitted that you don't know it all, and hence the lack of
>>>>knowledge on Powerdyne blower problems, just reinforces our position to
>>>>not trust vendors who use this group to mine for customers.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, what's your price for a KB kit for a '99-'04 GT and how many of
>>>>those kits have you sold? Are you an authorized retailer with Kenne Bell?
>>>>
>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>People People People,
>>>>>
>>>>>One, I don't need to go "mining". My customers and dealers do a great
>>>>>job. Two, I will admit that I am not a "know it all" Sorry. But I
>>>>>never said I was. When you deal with over 600 manufacturers, its kinda
>>>>>hard to know EVERYTHING about EVERY product they make. And if someone
>>>>>says they do, well I guess they are a "know it all". But since I am
>>>>>only 31 years old, I can't possibly know everything, YET But my
>>>>>ego does tell me I know quite a bit about alot of things.
>>>>>
>>>>>My comments about Powerdyne were based SOLELY on my experiences with
>>>>>my customers. None of those 300-something people have had any
>>>>>problems. Future problems?, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Hell,
>>>>>I bet I can have a comment on just about anything, just like you.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I was smarter, (like I said, I am not a "know it all"), I would
>>>>>have recommended ATI or Vortech, because it makes more "business
>>>>>sense" for me
>>>>>
>>>>>Have had an Eaton or two come back, but things brake, all
>>>>>manufacturers have QA departments, so obviously none of them are
>>>>>perfect. Funny, but those two also bought a KB at a later time. So
>>>>>maybe they share your opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>So yes you are probably being cynical, but thats ok, that's why I
>>>>>serve our country everyday, so you and others can be.
>>>>>
>>>>>The gentleman asked for some opinions and recommendations, and I gave
>>>>>mine, based on my customers feedback and experience.
>>>>>
>>>>>Others have gave thier opinions and I have not "jumped" on them like
>>>>>flies on, well you know...............
>>>>>
>>>>>Like I said, PERSONAL PREFERENCE AND DEEP POCKETS!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh BTW, send me a KB part # and I will send a price.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have a good evening.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
> wrote in message .com>...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Seconded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This was a nice "politically correct" response from someone trying to
>>>>>>>mine for potential new customers. The fact you don't know about the
>>>>>>>well known and long standing issues with Powerdyne blowers makes me
>>>>>>>wonder how much you actually know about superchargers in general. We're
>>>>>>>a fairly tight knit group here and we try to share knowledge with each
>>>>>>>other to keep someone from making a bad decision. I, for one, am always
>>>>>>>skeptical of anyone recommending products they sell. I bet you don't
>>>>>>>sell KB blowers hence the weighting of your original response toward
>>>>>>>blowers you probably do sell and can make a profit from. Maybe I'm
>>>>>>>being cynical but then again maybe I'm not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Actually we sell any supercharger, turbo or twin turbo that is made
>>>>>>>>for 'stangs. If its not on our site, it won't suprise me as we have
>>>>>>>>over 600 manufacturers that we deal with so ...... there just isnt
>>>>>>>>enough hours in the day to get them all on there. I am, along with
>>>>>>>>the wife, also the contract writer, webmaster, sales associate, order
>>>>>>>>taker, CFO, inventory/stock, etc, etc. During the day I am an aviation
>>>>>>>>electro-mechanical engineer in the United States Navy defending your
>>>>>>>>freedoms and protecting our great nation from whomever our politicians
>>>>>>>>say the enemy is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>KB -- Never heard anything bad either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Paxton -- Nothing but good things.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Eaton -- Kinda high, easy to rebuild lol OEM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Powerdyne -- Alas less expensive, but have yet to hear any of my
>>>>>>>>customers complain about belt issues, so I can't speak on that
>>>>>>>>matter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Vortech -- My personal choice. Great product.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Last comment -- Personal preference divided by deep pockets!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
> wrote in message
>>>>>>
rodigy.com>...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I haven't installed a blower on my car, but I hafta agree.. I've heard
>>>>>>>>>nothing but good things about Kenne Bell & doing my own research &
>>>>>>
>>>>>>speaking
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>with some representatives there... they seem to know what they are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>doing. A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>local 02 GT has a KB blown Mustang... blue.. beautiful car & runs like a
>>>>>>>>>BEAST!! Extremely torquey & gobs of HP at the top-end. I am thoroughly
>>>>>>>>>impressed. I've heard good things about Vortech as well, but as Michael
>>>>>>>>>pointed out... add in everything & you'll be right under or at the cost
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>KB... but you don't get the torque of a KB twin-screw blower from any
>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blower .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>>>>>>>>Cold air intake
>>>>>>>>>FRPP 3.73 gears
>>>>>>>>>Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>>>>>>>>Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>>>>>>>>Hi-speed fan switch
>>>>>>>>>255/60R-15 rear tires
>>>>>>>>>Subframe connectors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne is a poor recommendation. They brake belts and need more
>>>>>>>>>>service than just about any blower currently sold. The KB blower for
>>>>>>>>>>the '99+ GT's make more hp/psi of boost on a bone stock engine than
>>>>>>>>>>Paxton or Powerdyne. As for bang for the buck, by the time you add all
>>>>>>>>>>the items (fuel injectors, chip, etc.) KB includes in their kits the
>>>>>>>>>>centrifugal blowers will cost just as much. Something tells me that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>don't sell KB blowers over at fastmustangparts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>FastAutoSports wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>GT,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Powerdyne and Paxton Superchargers will give you and your Ford Mustang
>>>>>>>>>>>the most bang for the buck. Both are comparable or better than the
>>>>>>>>>>>Kenne Bell, especially if you want to push 8psi. All three have very
>>>>>>>>>>>strong reputations, so it comes down to personal preferences and how
>>>>>>>>>>>deep your pockets are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Have a good one and Good Luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-Tom
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Fast Auto Sports
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.fastmustangparts.com/

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Recon_" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
. pas.earthlink.net>...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I have an 04 40th Anniversary GT Vert and have been looking into
>>>>>>>>>>>>supercharger kits. I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell intercooled
>>>>>>>>>>>>@ 8psi from what Ive researched, but wanted to get input from some
>>>>>>>>>>>>people who have installed one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Any opinions or tips would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>GT

Joe wrote:
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
> :
>
> <response to troll snipped>
>
>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
>>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
>>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
>>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
>>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
>>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three row
>>radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler in a
>>bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
>>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
>>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
>>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
>>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
>>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
>>missed a few things but those are the highlights.
>
> <rest of troll thread snipped>
>
> Michael, it's about time we see the whole list of what's in the LX.
> Very impressive! That car's got to be one of the best Fox bodies out
> there. So when are you going to take it to the track?

Thanks Joe. I look at that list and see a lot of $ signs. I really
like the idea of a 427W stroker engine under the hood. After pushing
the KB blower to 16 psi and dealing with all the headaches of forced
induction, the simplicity and reliability of a N/A motor sounds real
good to me. I also think that engine would make for an ideal street Stang.

As for the track it will be some time. The car has a miss and I haven't
bothered to fine out what is causing it. In fact the plates are
currently expired! I still say is capable of mid to high 10's in the
1/4 with a pair of slicks out back.

Damn it... *still wiping drool off keyboard*.

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors


"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
> Joe wrote:
> > "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > <response to troll snipped>
> >
> >>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
> >>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
> >>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
> >>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
> >>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
> >>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
> >>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three row
> >>radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler in a
> >>bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
> >>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
> >>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
> >>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
> >>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
> >>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
> >>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
> >>missed a few things but those are the highlights.
> >
> > <rest of troll thread snipped>
> >
> > Michael, it's about time we see the whole list of what's in the LX.
> > Very impressive! That car's got to be one of the best Fox bodies out
> > there. So when are you going to take it to the track?
>
> Thanks Joe. I look at that list and see a lot of $ signs. I really
> like the idea of a 427W stroker engine under the hood. After pushing
> the KB blower to 16 psi and dealing with all the headaches of forced
> induction, the simplicity and reliability of a N/A motor sounds real
> good to me. I also think that engine would make for an ideal street
Stang.
>
> As for the track it will be some time. The car has a miss and I haven't
> bothered to fine out what is causing it. In fact the plates are
> currently expired! I still say is capable of mid to high 10's in the
> 1/4 with a pair of slicks out back.

Joe wrote:
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
> :
>
>
>>Joe wrote:
>>
>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
:
>>>
>>><response to troll snipped>
>>>
>>>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
>>>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
>>>>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
>>>>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
>>>>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
>>>>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
>>>>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three
>>>>row radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler
>>>>in a bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
>>>>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
>>>>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
>>>>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
>>>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
>>>>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
>>>>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
>>>>missed a few things but those are the highlights.
>>>
>>><rest of troll thread snipped>
>>>
>>>Michael, it's about time we see the whole list of what's in the LX.
>>> Very impressive! That car's got to be one of the best Fox bodies
>>>out there. So when are you going to take it to the track?
>>
>>Thanks Joe. I look at that list and see a lot of $ signs.
>
>
> I do too. But it's still an impressive list. Lots of
> sophisitcated stuff - not your run of the mill mod list.
>
>
>>I really
>>like the idea of a 427W stroker engine under the hood. After
>>pushing the KB blower to 16 psi and dealing with all the headaches
>>of forced induction, the simplicity and reliability of a N/A motor
>>sounds real good to me. I also think that engine would make for an
>>ideal street Stang.
>
>
> What about a 460? Given any thought to that?

A little. The 427W will bolt right in since the block is basically the
same fit as a 302. Plus the 351W block takes most 302 parts like heads
etc. It also has great after market support. The 460 is harder to
install and it makes the car very front heavy. A big plus is the T-56
will bolt right up to the 351W block.

>>As for the track it will be some time. The car has a miss and I
>>haven't bothered to fine out what is causing it. In fact the plates
>>are currently expired! I still say is capable of mid to high 10's
>>in the 1/4 with a pair of slicks out back.
>
>
> I don't doubt it. That car is one of the best kept secrets around
> IMO.

It is a sleeper. From the outside it looks like a bone stock LX 5.0L
with 2000 GT rims/tires. The most surprised are Vette and F-Body owners
because they think I'll be an easy mark. The best to humiliate them is
to stay even through first and second then leave them behind in third.
That's when they figure the car isn't exactly stock. I take care of
the rice burners by blipping the throttle at a red light.

I'm drooling too but it's from the gaping hole in my wallet.

wrote:
> Damn it... *still wiping drool off keyboard*.
>
> -Mike
>
> --
> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> Cold air intake
> FRPP 3.73 gears
> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
> Hi-speed fan switch
> 255/60R-15 rear tires
> Subframe connectors
>
>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Joe wrote:
>>
>>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
:
>>>
>>><response to troll snipped>
>>>
>>>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
>>>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
>>>>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
>>>>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
>>>>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
>>>>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
>>>>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three row
>>>>radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler in a
>>>>bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
>>>>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
>>>>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
>>>>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
>>>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
>>>>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
>>>>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
>>>>missed a few things but those are the highlights.
>>>
>>><rest of troll thread snipped>
>>>
>>>Michael, it's about time we see the whole list of what's in the LX.
>>>Very impressive! That car's got to be one of the best Fox bodies out
>>>there. So when are you going to take it to the track?
>>
>>Thanks Joe. I look at that list and see a lot of $ signs. I really
>>like the idea of a 427W stroker engine under the hood. After pushing
>>the KB blower to 16 psi and dealing with all the headaches of forced
>>induction, the simplicity and reliability of a N/A motor sounds real
>>good to me. I also think that engine would make for an ideal street
>
> Stang.
>
>>As for the track it will be some time. The car has a miss and I haven't
>>bothered to fine out what is causing it. In fact the plates are
>>currently expired! I still say is capable of mid to high 10's in the
>>1/4 with a pair of slicks out back.
>
>
>

LOL

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors


"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
...
> I'm drooling too but it's from the gaping hole in my wallet.
>
> wrote:
> > Damn it... *still wiping drool off keyboard*.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > --
> > A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> > Cold air intake
> > FRPP 3.73 gears
> > Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> > Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
> > Hi-speed fan switch
> > 255/60R-15 rear tires
> > Subframe connectors
> >
> >
> > "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Joe wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in
> :
> >>>
> >>><response to troll snipped>
> >>>
> >>>>FWIW, here's a list of the mods on my '89 LX: Kenne Bell 2200
> >>>>supercharger @ 12 psi (aka Blowzilla); Flowzilla blower manifolds
> >>>>with bypass; T-56 tranny; Dynomax aluminum drive shaft; ported
> >>>>GT-40X heads (64cc); ported cobra lower intake; Crane #2031 cam;
> >>>>Pro-M 80mm MAF; 75mm Accufab TB/EGR; FMS ceramic coated headers;
> >>>>42# fuel injectors; complete upgraded fuel system from tank to
> >>>>injectors; 1.7 Cobra roller rockers; high flow water pump; three row
> >>>>radiator; SMC water/alcohol injection system (aka intercooler in a
> >>>>bottle); SPEC Stage III clutch; 2.5" H-pipe; Dynomax Ultraflow
> >>>>after-cat exhaust; FMS 3.55 gears; Steeda shifter; J&S Safeguard;
> >>>>digital wide band 02 sensor; MSD 6AL ignition/Blaster coil; 5 lug
> >>>>conversion with SN95 front spindles/calipers; cryogenically treated
> >>>>slotted rotors with carbon fiber break pads; relocated battery to
> >>>>hatch area; Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges mounted on the
> >>>>A-pillar; TwEECer RT chip; subframe connectors. I've probably
> >>>>missed a few things but those are the highlights.
> >>>
> >>><rest of troll thread snipped>
> >>>
> >>>Michael, it's about time we see the whole list of what's in the LX.
> >>>Very impressive! That car's got to be one of the best Fox bodies out
> >>>there. So when are you going to take it to the track?
> >>
> >>Thanks Joe. I look at that list and see a lot of $ signs. I really
> >>like the idea of a 427W stroker engine under the hood. After pushing
> >>the KB blower to 16 psi and dealing with all the headaches of forced
> >>induction, the simplicity and reliability of a N/A motor sounds real
> >>good to me. I also think that engine would make for an ideal street
> >
> > Stang.
> >
> >>As for the track it will be some time. The car has a miss and I haven't
> >>bothered to fine out what is causing it. In fact the plates are
> >>currently expired! I still say is capable of mid to high 10's in the
> >>1/4 with a pair of slicks out back.
> >
> >
> >