First kill!

In our area a young couple and their 5 month old daughter were killed when
hit at 100+ MPH by a street racer just last weekend. Of course one of the
cars involved was a Mustang. The vehicle that actually hit the families car
was a pickup truck.


"Brad and Mia" > wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Johnson, PE" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Good story. Get ready though, the PC police are likely to ambush you for
>> your transgressions.
>
> Oh please. Lots of people street race. I do. All the time. I mean,
> driving 60 in a 30, or 80 in a 40 is kewl. I know I know, someday I might
> kill someone. But at least if it's a member of your family, you'll
> understand. Cause you're kewl; just like me.
>
> Brad
>
>> 66 6F HCS wrote:
>>> Now before you guys go into how street racing is only for morons, drop
>>> it 'cause I don't wanna hear it. For the most part I agree with you
>>> guys, but there are some occasions where ya just can't resist it.
>>>
>>> My first kill in the '69 Boss clone was this evening. A beautiful raven
>>> black '67 Camaro SS with Silver stripes. Rolling start @ ~30mph. I'm not
>>> sure if he's gonna gun it. He takes off so I jump on it too. He was
>>> ahead by 1/2 length on start and I slowly reeled him in and pulled even
>>> within 1/8th mile. The whole thing lasted about 10 seconds and he gave
>>> up when he could see my rear bumper.
>>>
>>> Pulled into the AutoZone which is a few blocks away and pop our hoods.
>>> (You shoulda seen the ricers come out of the woodworks then, LMAO!) He's
>>> got a chromed out 350 stroked to 383 with a Holley 750cfm DP, Edelbrock
>>> RPM Air-Gap intake, 4-spd manual and 3.73:1 posi 10 bolt. Fairly close
>>> match with my 393 stroker 351W, 600cfm Edelbrock, Edelbrock Performer
>>> intake, FMX tranny and 3.70:1 Trac-Lok 9".
>>>
>>> He said he runs high 13's at Bandimere. I wonder where that would put me
>>> up on the hill???? I'm sure I could run 14's all day long with my
>>> current setup. But 13's? I'm not so sure. I'm thinking he was fudging a
>>> bit.
>>>
>
>

"James" > wrote in message
...
> In our area a young couple and their 5 month old daughter were killed when
> hit at 100+ MPH by a street racer just last weekend. Of course one of the
> cars involved was a Mustang. The vehicle that actually hit the families
car
> was a pickup truck.
>
Street racing? That's the first "street racing" comment I've seen connected
to this particular incident. Road raging drunken idiots seems to be a more
fitting description than street racers.
--
John C.
'03 Cobra Convt.

You are probably right. I had heard originally that they were racing.

"John C." > wrote in message
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>
> "James" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In our area a young couple and their 5 month old daughter were killed
>> when
>> hit at 100+ MPH by a street racer just last weekend. Of course one of
>> the
>> cars involved was a Mustang. The vehicle that actually hit the families
> car
>> was a pickup truck.
>>
> Street racing? That's the first "street racing" comment I've seen
> connected
> to this particular incident. Road raging drunken idiots seems to be a more
> fitting description than street racers.
> --
> John C.
> '03 Cobra Convt.
>
>

Dwarf? Midget? Wait 'til the Little People of America hear about
that!!!! LOL

On Sat, 21 May 2005 11:11:34 GMT, "SVTKate"
> wrote:

>
>"Spike" > wrote in message
.. .
>| Now you need a program to kick out a decal to stick to the ride... a
>| tiny little Camaro... maybe with a bullseye over it.... : )
>
>OH!
>My ex has an uncle that had a beat up old truck that had little stick men
>painted on the side.
>It's funny as hell! He has about two rows of them and one that is only
>half... never figured that one out.
>
>

Hey! Spikey Likes IT!
1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok
Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior
Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8"
w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16

If you have a decent set of heads, a 600cfm carb is a bit small, no? I
would put at least a 650-700. Heck, for 400 cubes with good heads and
healthy cam, a 780 might work too (dont know forsure on this one).


66 6F HCS wrote:
> Now before you guys go into how street racing is only for morons, drop it
> 'cause I don't wanna hear it. For the most part I agree with you guys, but
> there are some occasions where ya just can't resist it.
>
> My first kill in the '69 Boss clone was this evening. A beautiful raven
> black '67 Camaro SS with Silver stripes. Rolling start @ ~30mph. I'm not
> sure if he's gonna gun it. He takes off so I jump on it too. He was ahead by
> 1/2 length on start and I slowly reeled him in and pulled even within 1/8th
> mile. The whole thing lasted about 10 seconds and he gave up when he could
> see my rear bumper.
>
> Pulled into the AutoZone which is a few blocks away and pop our hoods. (You
> shoulda seen the ricers come out of the woodworks then, LMAO!) He's got a
> chromed out 350 stroked to 383 with a Holley 750cfm DP, Edelbrock RPM
> Air-Gap intake, 4-spd manual and 3.73:1 posi 10 bolt. Fairly close match
> with my 393 stroker 351W, 600cfm Edelbrock, Edelbrock Performer intake, FMX
> tranny and 3.70:1 Trac-Lok 9".
>
> He said he runs high 13's at Bandimere. I wonder where that would put me up
> on the hill???? I'm sure I could run 14's all day long with my current
> setup. But 13's? I'm not so sure. I'm thinking he was fudging a bit.
>

On Sat, 21 May 2005 14:30:08 GMT, "John C." > wrote:

>
>"James" > wrote in message
...
>> In our area a young couple and their 5 month old daughter were killed when
>> hit at 100+ MPH by a street racer just last weekend. Of course one of the
>> cars involved was a Mustang. The vehicle that actually hit the families
>car
>> was a pickup truck.
>>
>Street racing? That's the first "street racing" comment I've seen connected
>to this particular incident. Road raging drunken idiots seems to be a more
>fitting description than street racers.

Ode to days gone by...

Yeah, this sounds more like,"look how fast my dick can go" than Street
Racing. Driving down main street at 100+ with some other idiot in
broad daylight is not street racing, that's just reckless driving.
When we use to street race here (West Los Angeles) It was more of an
organized event. Everyone met at Carl's Jr., Del Taco, insert random
parking lot here. Then the drivers (not called ****en "racers") would
check each others cars, ask the questions, " Are you squeezing, what
you got, Big block, small block, the move, heads up, blah, blah,blah
then go to a set quarter mile. Back then it was either the industrial
park road next to the tracks, Pershing Blvd, a wide empty strip behind
the LAX runway, etc. NEVER on some busy street. If the cops came
we were outta there. But of course I'm just reminiscing, this was back
like in the late 80's early 90's when we were still racing real cars,
the only ricer that we had was a 70' 280zx and he had a small block
Chevy in it.Oh. and the occasional Mazda rotary. Of course this all
ended as soon as ricers started showing up, cars put together by brand
names and electronics, not Muscle and sweat and tears. If your pride
and joy muscle car blew its engine because of something "YOU" forgot
it was no laughing matter. Now a days ricers blow engines and just
laugh it off and they are out next weekend in the same car....

Yeah I'm bitter, or maybe I just miss the days that real street racing
meant you had work your ass off for the car you wanted and what you
wanted it to do. Or when you shook the guys hand that just beat you,
you notice the grease under all his nails and realized he wanted that
win, he worked for it earlier that day. No multi colored cars, No
trash talking asshole saying you cheated. Just respect for the other
driver and his car.

> wrote in message ...
>
> If you have a decent set of heads, a 600cfm carb is a bit small, no? I
> would put at least a 650-700. Heck, for 400 cubes with good heads and
> healthy cam, a 780 might work too (dont know forsure on this one).

I thought the same, until I went to build the motor and did some math. I'm
5280' above sea level in Denver and my motor will rarely see 5000+ rpm. By
my calculations and Edelbrock's tech support, a 600 is just right. More
would be a waste of good expensive gas. I rejetted and metered for the
altitude. The cam is the XE262EH from Comp Cams. Split duration 262/270 so
the motor could run more cam, but peak torque comes on at 3200rpms and
practically flatlines to 5000!!! VERY torquey motor!!

What's holding me back is my heads and exhaust right now. D0 Windsor heads
and a 2" dual exhaust without a crossover (compliments of the previous
owner, yech!). I'll gain about 20hp and tq once I switch up to 3" with a
crossover through glasspacks out the side and around 30hp and tq with GT-40X
heads. Ran those numbers on "Engine Analyzer 3.0". From the voices of
experience, those numbers are within 3% of the real world.
--
Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

"moco" > wrote
> If your pride
> and joy muscle car blew its engine because of something "YOU" forgot
> it was no laughing matter.

No ****!

> Yeah I'm bitter, or maybe I just miss the days that real street racing
> meant you had work your ass off for the car you wanted and what you
> wanted it to do. Or when you shook the guys hand that just beat you,
> you notice the grease under all his nails and realized he wanted that
> win, he worked for it earlier that day. No multi colored cars, No
> trash talking asshole saying you cheated. Just respect for the other
> driver and his car.

Which is exactly what we did, except I'm the one who won. heh! Still shook
hands and popped hoods. The only thing missing was a 'Cuda with a 383 next
to us.
--
Scott W.
'66 HCS Mustang 289
'68 Ranchero 500 302
'69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W
ThunderSnake #57
http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/

latest mustang monthly has an article where they swap a 600 cfm holley
for a 650dp on a 351w with afr heads. Effectively, the car gained < 10
hp, and then adding timing adda like another 20.

HOWEVER, I would say that as you change your combo, you are going to
move the bottleneck somewhere else. You might indeed need that 650-700
with gt-40x/afr/you-name-it heads as they flow ALOT more than the D00E
(guessing) heads you have, especially if they are not ported.

Just the ramblings of a bench-racer without a current motor project.
*sigh*, my 97 cobra is fun, but I am having to work hard keeping it bone
stock.

66 6F HCS wrote:

> > wrote in message ...
>
>>If you have a decent set of heads, a 600cfm carb is a bit small, no? I
>>would put at least a 650-700. Heck, for 400 cubes with good heads and
>>healthy cam, a 780 might work too (dont know forsure on this one).
>
>
> I thought the same, until I went to build the motor and did some math. I'm
> 5280' above sea level in Denver and my motor will rarely see 5000+ rpm. By
> my calculations and Edelbrock's tech support, a 600 is just right. More
> would be a waste of good expensive gas. I rejetted and metered for the
> altitude. The cam is the XE262EH from Comp Cams. Split duration 262/270 so
> the motor could run more cam, but peak torque comes on at 3200rpms and
> practically flatlines to 5000!!! VERY torquey motor!!
>
> What's holding me back is my heads and exhaust right now. D0 Windsor heads
> and a 2" dual exhaust without a crossover (compliments of the previous
> owner, yech!). I'll gain about 20hp and tq once I switch up to 3" with a
> crossover through glasspacks out the side and around 30hp and tq with GT-40X
> heads. Ran those numbers on "Engine Analyzer 3.0". From the voices of
> experience, those numbers are within 3% of the real world.

"Deputy Dog" > wrote in message
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> "Brad and Mia" > wrote in message
> news:PXBje.1426502$6l.2665@pd7tw2no...
> someday I might
>> kill someone. But at least if it's a member of your family, you'll
>> understand. Cause you're kewl; just like me.
>>
>> Brad
>
>
> The only thing I'd understand is the feeling of satisfaction when some one
> did to you as you did to others. ****ing asshole!
>
> Dave
>
>

Dave, you missed the point, bigtime.

Brad