Ditch '93 Cobra For New 5.0?

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT), NoOp >
wrote:

>I'm kicking around the idea to let my 1993 Cobra go and replace it
>with a new 5.0 Mustang. My dilemma: I only have a two-car garage.
>And my wife's vehicle gets one of the slots, so that leaves me with
>only one parking space. (I refuse to park the Cobra, or a new 5.0
>Mustang, in the driveway or street and expose it to the elements
>24/7. Not gonna happen!) I could keep the '93 Cobra, but at this
>point in time the lil' snake's performance/235 HP is increasingly
>becoming, what with nearly seemly everything these days sporting
>300+HP, um, lets just say ho-hum. I realize "upgrading" the '93 is
>very doable, but do I really want to go through the hassle, not to
>mention turning it into just ANOTHER modified late-model Mustang?
>(I've already done all the easily reversible mods.) Of course the
>"fuel" for my current thinking/planning is that upcoming, honey of a
>Mustang, the new 5.0 GT. 412HP, 6-speed trans, optional Bremo brakes,
>and killer looks, what more could a rabid Mustang enthusiast ask for?
>Okay, yeah, I know, a no-option/stripper version. But how can I
>quibble about that now when I've been driving an "all-option" Cobra
>for the past 12+ years. Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
>I'd like some feedback.
>
>Patrick

If the cost of the new one isn't an issue I'd say go test drive a new
one and if you like it buy it.

"NoOp" > wrote in message
...
>
> Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
> I'd like some feedback.
>
> Patrick

Welcome to my world, Patrick.

I understand. TFrog has been my best friend and constant companion for 16
years, and is still a flat-out joy every day. Now long in the tooth and with
a laundry list of things that need to be done, it is still the "perfect
car." The convertible is a relative pig, slow and heavy, so we have not
bonded the way I have with TFrog. And TFrog is the car that "I will keep
forever."

Now Ford has messed things up by bringing out a new model that is ultra hard
to resist. My quandary - both '93s would have to go to make room for a new
2011, both in parking and in budget.

All I can say is what has already been said - take a 2011 for a test drive.
If it makes you forget all about the Cobra, then the decision has been made.

dwight
www.tfrog.com

WindsorFox<[SS]> wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> On Apr 6, 4:55 pm, Brent > wrote:
>>> On 2010-04-06, NoOp > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm kicking around the idea to let my 1993 Cobra go and replace it
>>>> with a new 5.0 Mustang. My dilemma: I only have a two-car garage.
>>>> And my wife's vehicle gets one of the slots, so that leaves me with
>>>> only one parking space. (I refuse to park the Cobra, or a new 5.0
>>>> Mustang, in the driveway or street and expose it to the elements
>>>> 24/7. Not gonna happen!) I could keep the '93 Cobra, but at this
>>>> point in time the lil' snake's performance/235 HP is increasingly
>>>> becoming, what with nearly seemly everything these days sporting
>>>> 300+HP, um, lets just say ho-hum. I realize "upgrading" the '93 is
>>>> very doable, but do I really want to go through the hassle, not to
>>>> mention turning it into just ANOTHER modified late-model Mustang?
>>>> (I've already done all the easily reversible mods.) Of course the
>>>> "fuel" for my current thinking/planning is that upcoming, honey of a
>>>> Mustang, the new 5.0 GT. 412HP, 6-speed trans, optional Bremo brakes,
>>>> and killer looks, what more could a rabid Mustang enthusiast ask for?
>>>> Okay, yeah, I know, a no-option/stripper version. But how can I
>>>> quibble about that now when I've been driving an "all-option" Cobra
>>>> for the past 12+ years. Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
>>>> I'd like some feedback.
>>
>>> 1) garage sized storage unit.
>>
>> I don't want to rent space.
>>
>>> 2) build a bigger or additional garage
>>
>> My lot is already tapped out.
>>
>>> 3) buy a four post lift or just a storage lift provided your garage
>>> ceiling is high enough.
>>
>> Not tall enough.
>>
>> :-(
>>
>> Patrick
>
>
> Time to move!!! LOL
>

1.Move into the garage.
2.Put garage doors (3) on the house.
--
Cheers, Bob

On Apr 7, 6:59*am, Bob Willard > wrote:
> WindsorFox<[SS]> wrote:
> > NoOp wrote:
> >> On Apr 6, 4:55 pm, Brent > wrote:
> >>> On 2010-04-06, NoOp > wrote:
>
> >>>> I'm kicking around the idea to let my 1993 Cobra go and replace it
> >>>> with a new 5.0 Mustang. *My dilemma: *I only have a two-car garage.
> >>>> And my wife's vehicle gets one of the slots, so that leaves me with
> >>>> only one parking space. *(I refuse to park the Cobra, or a new 5.0
> >>>> Mustang, in the driveway or street and expose it to the elements
> >>>> 24/7. *Not gonna happen!) *I could keep the '93 Cobra, but at this
> >>>> point in time the lil' snake's performance/235 HP is increasingly
> >>>> becoming, what with nearly seemly everything these days sporting
> >>>> 300+HP, um, lets just say ho-hum. I realize "upgrading" the '93 is
> >>>> very doable, but do I really want to go through the hassle, not to
> >>>> mention turning it into just ANOTHER modified late-model Mustang?
> >>>> (I've already done all the easily reversible mods.) *Of course the
> >>>> "fuel" for my current thinking/planning is that upcoming, honey of a
> >>>> Mustang, the new 5.0 GT. *412HP, 6-speed trans, optional Bremo brakes,
> >>>> and killer looks, what more could a rabid Mustang enthusiast ask for?
> >>>> Okay, yeah, I know, a no-option/stripper version. *But how can I
> >>>> quibble about that now when I've been driving an "all-option" Cobra
> >>>> for the past 12+ years. *Straighten me out or talk me it in to it....
> >>>> I'd like some feedback.
>
> >>> 1) garage sized storage unit.
>
> >> I don't want to rent space.
>
> >>> 2) build a bigger or additional garage
>
> >> My lot is already tapped out.
>
> >>> 3) buy a four post lift or just a storage lift provided your garage
> >>> ceiling is high enough.
>
> >> Not tall enough.

> 1.Move into the garage.

If I ever tried to take my wife's parking slot I would find myself
living in the garage.

> 2.Put garage doors (3) on the house.

Hmmmm... our dining room is big enough. I wonder if my wife would
notice her dinning room table replaced with a Mustang...?

Patrick

On Apr 7, 6:23*am, "dwight" > wrote:
> "NoOp" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
> > I'd like some feedback.
>
> > Patrick
>
> Welcome to my world, Patrick.
>
> I understand. TFrog has been my best friend and constant companion for 16
> years, and is still a flat-out joy every day. Now long in the tooth and with
> a laundry list of things that need to be done, it is still the "perfect
> car." The convertible is a relative pig, slow and heavy, so we have not
> bonded the way I have with TFrog. And TFrog is the car that "I will keep
> forever."

> Now Ford has messed things up by bringing out a new model that is ultra hard
> to resist. My quandary - both '93s would have to go to make room for a new
> 2011, both in parking and in budget.

Parking? If you can house two Mustangs now, why not just replace one
and keep the TFrog?

> All I can say is what has already been said - take a 2011 for a test drive.
> If it makes you forget all about the Cobra, then the decision has been made.

As with your CFrog, I feel the same way about my Cobra. I like the
car, but there's no bond. It's just not the same as my old '87 no-
option, 5-speed, 3.08 geared, LX. THAT car was me. I was there when
it was conceived (I special ordered it) and I raised it (from zero
miles up to over 100K) -- lots and lots of memorable street racing
matches, numerous trips to the drags (I made over hundred 1/4 mile
passes in that car) and used it for many family outings/cross-country
vacations. The Cobra in contrast was an adoption; it wasn't mine on
day 1, and hasn't really been able to become part of the family.

I'm hoping a brand-new 5.0 might be able to fill the void that's been
partially empty inside me for the last 12 years. I don't know... I do
know a test drive of the new 5.0 is in order. And if it gives me that
"warm feeling" a test drive of a '85 5-speed GT Mustang gave me back
in '86, it may be time to type up a new "birth certificate" with my
local Ford dealer...

Patrick

On 2010-04-07, NoOp > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 4:55*pm, Brent > wrote:
>> On 2010-04-06, NoOp > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm kicking around the idea to let my 1993 Cobra go and replace it
>> > with a new 5.0 Mustang. *My dilemma: *I only have a two-car garage.
>> > And my wife's vehicle gets one of the slots, so that leaves me with
>> > only one parking space. *(I refuse to park the Cobra, or a new 5.0
>> > Mustang, in the driveway or street and expose it to the elements
>> > 24/7. *Not gonna happen!) *I could keep the '93 Cobra, but at this
>> > point in time the lil' snake's performance/235 HP is increasingly
>> > becoming, what with nearly seemly everything these days sporting
>> > 300+HP, um, lets just say ho-hum. I realize "upgrading" the '93 is
>> > very doable, but do I really want to go through the hassle, not to
>> > mention turning it into just ANOTHER modified late-model Mustang?
>> > (I've already done all the easily reversible mods.) *Of course the
>> > "fuel" for my current thinking/planning is that upcoming, honey of a
>> > Mustang, the new 5.0 GT. *412HP, 6-speed trans, optional Bremo brakes,
>> > and killer looks, what more could a rabid Mustang enthusiast ask for?
>> > Okay, yeah, I know, a no-option/stripper version. *But how can I
>> > quibble about that now when I've been driving an "all-option" Cobra
>> > for the past 12+ years. *Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
>> > I'd like some feedback.
>
>> 1) garage sized storage unit.
>
> I don't want to rent space.
>
>> 2) build a bigger or additional garage
>
> My lot is already tapped out.
>
>> 3) buy a four post lift or just a storage lift provided your garage
>> ceiling is high enough.
>
> Not tall enough.

Well, there's a more expensive option..
http://www.aclifts.com/parking/pss-7/

should work fine if you don't have to worry about flooding or seepage.

On Apr 7, 10:33*am, Brent > wrote:
> On 2010-04-07, NoOp > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 4:55*pm, Brent > wrote:
> >> On 2010-04-06, NoOp > wrote:
>
> >> > I'm kicking around the idea to let my 1993 Cobra go and replace it
> >> > with a new 5.0 Mustang. *My dilemma: *I only have a two-car garage.
> >> > And my wife's vehicle gets one of the slots, so that leaves me with
> >> > only one parking space. *(I refuse to park the Cobra, or a new 5.0
> >> > Mustang, in the driveway or street and expose it to the elements
> >> > 24/7. *Not gonna happen!) *I could keep the '93 Cobra, but at this
> >> > point in time the lil' snake's performance/235 HP is increasingly
> >> > becoming, what with nearly seemly everything these days sporting
> >> > 300+HP, um, lets just say ho-hum. I realize "upgrading" the '93 is
> >> > very doable, but do I really want to go through the hassle, not to
> >> > mention turning it into just ANOTHER modified late-model Mustang?
> >> > (I've already done all the easily reversible mods.) *Of course the
> >> > "fuel" for my current thinking/planning is that upcoming, honey of a
> >> > Mustang, the new 5.0 GT. *412HP, 6-speed trans, optional Bremo brakes,
> >> > and killer looks, what more could a rabid Mustang enthusiast ask for?
> >> > Okay, yeah, I know, a no-option/stripper version. *But how can I
> >> > quibble about that now when I've been driving an "all-option" Cobra
> >> > for the past 12+ years. *Straighten me out or talk me it in to it....
> >> > I'd like some feedback.
>
> >> 1) garage sized storage unit.
>
> > I don't want to rent space.
>
> >> 2) build a bigger or additional garage
>
> > My lot is already tapped out.
>
> >> 3) buy a four post lift or just a storage lift provided your garage
> >> ceiling is high enough.
>
> > Not tall enough.
>
> Well, there's a more expensive option..http://www.aclifts.com/parking/pss-7/

> should work fine if you don't have to worry about flooding or seepage.

Amazing! I would guess it's somewhat comparable to putting in an in-
the-ground swimming pool. Cool stuff, but I don't think I want to go
through all that.

Patrick

"NoOp" > wrote in message
...
> On Apr 7, 6:23 am, "dwight" > wrote:
>> "NoOp" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
>> > I'd like some feedback.
>>
>> > Patrick
>>
>> Welcome to my world, Patrick.
>>
>> I understand. TFrog has been my best friend and constant companion for 16
>> years, and is still a flat-out joy every day. Now long in the tooth and
>> with
>> a laundry list of things that need to be done, it is still the "perfect
>> car." The convertible is a relative pig, slow and heavy, so we have not
>> bonded the way I have with TFrog. And TFrog is the car that "I will keep
>> forever."
>
>> Now Ford has messed things up by bringing out a new model that is ultra
>> hard
>> to resist. My quandary - both '93s would have to go to make room for a
>> new
>> 2011, both in parking and in budget.
>
> Parking? If you can house two Mustangs now, why not just replace one
> and keep the TFrog?

Oh, no. As is your situation, my wife gets one bay of our two-car garage.
That means that one Mustang is always just outside, waiting to go.
Generally, the convertible gets the garage in the winter, TFrog sits inside
on the really hot days (it's a black car). In fact, having one car outside
at all times was a mitigating factor in recently having a beautiful pine
tree removed. (Sap, y'know.)

>
>> All I can say is what has already been said - take a 2011 for a test
>> drive.
>> If it makes you forget all about the Cobra, then the decision has been
>> made.
>
> As with your CFrog, I feel the same way about my Cobra. I like the
> car, but there's no bond. It's just not the same as my old '87 no-
> option, 5-speed, 3.08 geared, LX. THAT car was me. I was there when
> it was conceived (I special ordered it) and I raised it (from zero
> miles up to over 100K) -- lots and lots of memorable street racing
> matches, numerous trips to the drags (I made over hundred 1/4 mile
> passes in that car) and used it for many family outings/cross-country
> vacations. The Cobra in contrast was an adoption; it wasn't mine on
> day 1, and hasn't really been able to become part of the family.

Exactly. Although, the difference is that I now want a convertible. That's
why I've been mulling over the new six - the 5.0 convertible will be "just a
bit" more than I can willingly spend.

>
> I'm hoping a brand-new 5.0 might be able to fill the void that's been
> partially empty inside me for the last 12 years. I don't know... I do
> know a test drive of the new 5.0 is in order. And if it gives me that
> "warm feeling" a test drive of a '85 5-speed GT Mustang gave me back
> in '86, it may be time to type up a new "birth certificate" with my
> local Ford dealer...
>
> Patrick

....and then you started the next thread with "YEEEEEEEEHAH!!!!!!!"

Good luck!

dwight

NoOp wrote:
> On Apr 6, 4:55 pm, Brent > wrote:
>> On 2010-04-06, NoOp > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm kicking around the idea to let my 1993 Cobra go and replace it
>>> with a new 5.0 Mustang. My dilemma: I only have a two-car garage.
>>> And my wife's vehicle gets one of the slots, so that leaves me
>>> with only one parking space. (I refuse to park the Cobra, or a
>>> new 5.0 Mustang, in the driveway or street and expose it to the
>>> elements 24/7. Not gonna happen!) I could keep the '93 Cobra, but
>>> at this point in time the lil' snake's performance/235 HP is
>>> increasingly becoming, what with nearly seemly everything these
>>> days sporting 300+HP, um, lets just say ho-hum. I realize
>>> "upgrading" the '93 is very doable, but do I really want to go
>>> through the hassle, not to mention turning it into just ANOTHER
>>> modified late-model Mustang? (I've already done all the easily
>>> reversible mods.) Of course the "fuel" for my current
>>> thinking/planning is that upcoming, honey of a Mustang, the new
>>> 5.0 GT. 412HP, 6-speed trans, optional Bremo brakes, and killer
>>> looks, what more could a rabid Mustang enthusiast ask for? Okay,
>>> yeah, I know, a no-option/stripper version. But how can I quibble
>>> about that now when I've been driving an "all-option" Cobra for
>>> the past 12+ years. Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
>>> I'd like some feedback.
>
>> 1) garage sized storage unit.
>
> I don't want to rent space.
>
>> 2) build a bigger or additional garage
>
> My lot is already tapped out.
>
>> 3) buy a four post lift or just a storage lift provided your garage
>> ceiling is high enough.
>
> Not tall enough.
>

Seems to me raising a garage roof should be relatively simple and
inexpensive. I might look into it if I ever get the far half of the
garage emptied out enough to move a car in. The wife's SUV is parked
outside the non-car side, lined up to move right in when it can.

I have the Mustang storage problem, but in my part of the world it's
not so important that it be indoors. My white coupe is usually the
outside car on the car-side of the garage. The black convertible takes
the inside as a matter of course, but has done a few driveway episodes
when there is some white-car project in progress. Both have good car
covers, which are almost always on the parked cars, inside or out. I
try to have the white car outside when there is rain predicted, and
remove the cover before it gets wet. When it does rain, I use the
opportunity to "wash" the white car, making that aspect of maintenance
simple.

Raising the roof to accommodate a lift won't do much for what to me
seems the only real problem with two cars and one driveway lane:
changing from one car to another involves a series of moves I'd rather
do without. I purely hate to start up a car and turn it off without at
least a 20-mile drive. Heh.

--
Frank ess
San Diego CA
USA

Patrick, in as much as you may love your old Mustangs, the 80s through
pre-2004 Mustangs are... are quite simply old and dated cars.

With few exceptions, they are long in the tooth and nowhere near as
desirable as new Mustangs, unless you want to talk pre-1974 Mustangs -
that's a different genre and one of the main reasons we're all still
talking Mustang these many decades later. Remember the late 80's Probe
scare? Whew, seems like yesterday.

Go get the birth certificate prepared buddy, you won't regret it.

Tell 'em Andrew sent ya...

'65 6cyl auto Caspian Blue coupe with white vinyl roof - owned since '85
'80 4cyl auto white hatch - 1991-1992
'89 8cyl 5spd std blue hatlch - 1992-1996
'96 8cyl 5spd std forest green GT - 1996 new - 2000 [god I miss the
beast]
Since 2001 they've all been brand new Escapes, '01, '03, 06 and now '09




In article
>,
NoOp > wrote:

> On Apr 7, 6:23*am, "dwight" > wrote:
> > "NoOp" > wrote in message
> >
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Straighten me out or talk me it in to it...
> > > I'd like some feedback.
> >
> > > Patrick
> >
> > Welcome to my world, Patrick.
> >
> > I understand. TFrog has been my best friend and constant companion for 16
> > years, and is still a flat-out joy every day. Now long in the tooth and with
> > a laundry list of things that need to be done, it is still the "perfect
> > car." The convertible is a relative pig, slow and heavy, so we have not
> > bonded the way I have with TFrog. And TFrog is the car that "I will keep
> > forever."
>
> > Now Ford has messed things up by bringing out a new model that is ultra hard
> > to resist. My quandary - both '93s would have to go to make room for a new
> > 2011, both in parking and in budget.
>
> Parking? If you can house two Mustangs now, why not just replace one
> and keep the TFrog?
>
> > All I can say is what has already been said - take a 2011 for a test drive.
> > If it makes you forget all about the Cobra, then the decision has been made.
>
> As with your CFrog, I feel the same way about my Cobra. I like the
> car, but there's no bond. It's just not the same as my old '87 no-
> option, 5-speed, 3.08 geared, LX. THAT car was me. I was there when
> it was conceived (I special ordered it) and I raised it (from zero
> miles up to over 100K) -- lots and lots of memorable street racing
> matches, numerous trips to the drags (I made over hundred 1/4 mile
> passes in that car) and used it for many family outings/cross-country
> vacations. The Cobra in contrast was an adoption; it wasn't mine on
> day 1, and hasn't really been able to become part of the family.
>
> I'm hoping a brand-new 5.0 might be able to fill the void that's been
> partially empty inside me for the last 12 years. I don't know... I do
> know a test drive of the new 5.0 is in order. And if it gives me that
> "warm feeling" a test drive of a '85 5-speed GT Mustang gave me back
> in '86, it may be time to type up a new "birth certificate" with my
> local Ford dealer...
>
> Patrick
>