No Oil Filter???

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:01:11 -0800, "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
et> wrote:

>For my 71 bus with new Mexi 1600 DP engine, I want to add:
>
>http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=197
>
>But I am unclear which version to order. They offer two flavors of the
>pump, described thusly:
>
>Part# Description Price
>1798 Maxi Pump 3 to 70
>1799 Maxi Pump 3 71-on
>
>If I had to hazard a guess, I want the first type, the #1798 because
>their dating scheme is probably for bugs and the bus had the upright
>engine into 1971. Good guess?
>
>An e-mail to CB Performance has gone unanswered (how's their customer
>service, in general?)

They are GREAT! Give them a call!! When I ordered mine I had questions
too. After 2 minutes on the phone, answered a couple of questions....
I had the part ordered. BTW I bought the high pressure hose from them
too. (might as well get it all from the same place)
Keep me posted!




Narley Dude®

For my 71 bus with new Mexi 1600 DP engine, I want to add:

http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=197

But I am unclear which version to order. They offer two flavors of the
pump, described thusly:

Part# Description Price
1798 Maxi Pump 3 to 70
1799 Maxi Pump 3 71-on

If I had to hazard a guess, I want the first type, the #1798 because
their dating scheme is probably for bugs and the bus had the upright
engine into 1971. Good guess?

An e-mail to CB Performance has gone unanswered (how's their customer
service, in general?)

--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
KG6RCR
-=-=-
"For every complex question, there is a
simple answer -- and it's wrong."
-- H.L. Mencken
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:01:11 -0800, "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
et> wrote:

>For my 71 bus with new Mexi 1600 DP engine, I want to add:
>
>http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=197
>
>But I am unclear which version to order. They offer two flavors of the
>pump, described thusly:
>
>Part# Description Price
>1798 Maxi Pump 3 to 70
>1799 Maxi Pump 3 71-on
>
>If I had to hazard a guess, I want the first type, the #1798 because
>their dating scheme is probably for bugs and the bus had the upright
>engine into 1971. Good guess?
>
>An e-mail to CB Performance has gone unanswered (how's their customer
>service, in general?)

If I remember well, it was based on the type of CAM SHAFT you have.
They will know which one. Plus, when I bought mine they said that in
the event it was the wrong one they would trade it for the right one
for no extra charge. Worst case scenario I would have been only out a
few days till the new one came in.



Narley Dude®

I would have guessed the difference would would be based on the type of
cam,dished or non-dished.The T4 motor came in the '72 models(in the
U.S.)I've never seen that set-up on a pancake motor.They have a factory
filter.
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
et> wrote in message
...
> For my 71 bus with new Mexi 1600 DP engine, I want to add:
>
> http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=197
>
> But I am unclear which version to order. They offer two flavors of the
> pump, described thusly:
>
> Part# Description Price 1798 Maxi Pump 3 to 70 1799 Maxi Pump 3 71-on
> If I had to hazard a guess, I want the first type, the #1798 because their
> dating scheme is probably for bugs and the bus had the upright engine into
> 1971. Good guess?
>
> An e-mail to CB Performance has gone unanswered (how's their customer
> service, in general?)
>
> --
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
> KG6RCR
> -=-=-
> "For every complex question, there is a
> simple answer -- and it's wrong."
> -- H.L. Mencken
> ------------------------------------

>From: "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel

>If I had to hazard a guess, I want the first type, the #1798 because
>their dating scheme is probably for bugs and the bus had the upright
>engine into 1971. Good guess?
>

your late model replacement engine will contain the 71+ "dished" cam....all
aftermarket performance cams are the "flat" (pre 71) cam...the dished cam has
four rivets holding the cam gear on and is "dished" in the center...so the pump
has a longer shaft(from the gear) to meet up with the slot in the cam,w hich in
turn, um, turns the gear to pump the oil....the later ones can have the gear
pressed further onto the shaft and the shaft ground down flush if for some
reason you would have the early cam(VERY doubtful, as far as i know all factory
cams(like in your factory longblock) had the dished cam from 71...i have torn
down two in the past couple years that were replacement engines and they were
dished....)
-------------------
Chris Perdue
"I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in
the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the
air-cooled legend forward"
Jim Mais
Feb. 2004

LOL, same quality?????? RIGHT!! :-D

nice try!

John
Aircooled.Net Inc.

"Kafertoys" > wrote in message
...
> >And just as many people buy the oil filter kit available from several of
> >the VW aftermarket retailers. If you'd like to do some research, check
out:
> >
> >www.aircooled.net
>
> or you can get the same kit for about half the price here at just the same
> quality
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...keId-10000148/
> p-2159/c-10110/modelId-10001811

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 17:23:20 -0700, "John Connolly"
> wrote:

>LOL, same quality?????? RIGHT!! :-D
>
>nice try!
>
>John
>Aircooled.Net Inc.

Here's an idea. Since the two of you disagree on performance engine
parts and want to prove who knows what they are talking about and who
is utterly full of ****, how about the two of you race your best VW
that you've built and whoever loses the race has an extra large cup of
STFU and leaves RAMVA...? That is, unless one of you is just a liar,
con-artist, or has some really stupid excuse... :-) In case both of
you do decide to race, I've got a dollar or two I'd like to bet on
that race.


>
>"Kafertoys" > wrote in message
...
>> >And just as many people buy the oil filter kit available from several of
>> >the VW aftermarket retailers. If you'd like to do some research, check
>out:
>> >
>> >www.aircooled.net
>>
>> or you can get the same kit for about half the price here at just the same
>> quality
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...keId-10000148/
>> p-2159/c-10110/modelId-10001811
>

--

Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite,
and furthermore always carry a small snake.
- W.C. Fields

Chris Perdue wrote:
>>From: "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel
>
>
>>If I had to hazard a guess, I want the first type, the #1798 because
>>their dating scheme is probably for bugs and the bus had the upright
>>engine into 1971. Good guess?
>>
>
>
> your late model replacement engine will contain the 71+ "dished" cam....all
> aftermarket performance cams are the "flat" (pre 71) cam...the dished cam has
> four rivets holding the cam gear on and is "dished" in the center...so the pump
> has a longer shaft(from the gear) to meet up with the slot in the cam,w hich in
> turn, um, turns the gear to pump the oil....the later ones can have the gear
> pressed further onto the shaft and the shaft ground down flush if for some
> reason you would have the early cam(VERY doubtful, as far as i know all factory
> cams(like in your factory longblock) had the dished cam from 71...i have torn
> down two in the past couple years that were replacement engines and they were
> dished....)
> -------------------

Thank, guys -- the later version is what I've ordered. I'm looking
forward to putting a real filter on the Wonderbus. Not that I don't love
changing oil every 1,500 miles, of course . . .
--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
KG6RCR
-=-=-
I always thought a tasteless condom would be, like, one with a
picture of the Pope on it or something.
-- Jim Sizemore
------------------------------------

"Shaggie" > wrote in message
...
>
> In case both of
> you do decide to race, I've got a dollar or two I'd like to bet on
> that race.
>
>


.................My money's on John.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 17:23:20 -0700, "John Connolly"
> wrote:

>LOL, same quality?????? RIGHT!! :-D
>
>nice try!
>
>John
>Aircooled.Net Inc.
>
>"Kafertoys" > wrote in message
...
>> >And just as many people buy the oil filter kit available from several of
>> >the VW aftermarket retailers. If you'd like to do some research, check
>out:
>> >
>> >www.aircooled.net
>>
>> or you can get the same kit for about half the price here at just the same
>> quality
>> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...keId-10000148/
>> p-2159/c-10110/modelId-10001811
>

As I said befo

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Plus, I have a friend that bought this very same item from JC Whitney
and they leaked due to hairline cracks only visible when they are nice
and hot.

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