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Old February 24th 07, 06:01 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Mike
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(I'm not a spammer. I have a Jeep Sport Cherokee and subscribe to
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Mike)


Patriot lives up to its Jeep label
By Ron Moorhead
SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published February 23, 2007
http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...5543-8759r.htm
This Patriot offers freedom of the outback
Jeep is in an interesting situation of late. Dealers want more
models to offer buyers. They also do not want abandon the hearty brand
image. Jeep leaders and dealers alike do not want to water down the
brand while making these offerings to a broader market.
Jeep is one of the strongest names known around the world as the
rugged and most capable off-road and on-road vehicle. Granted many
hard-core Jeep loyalists believe the leaders at Jeep have lost their
vision of the Jeep vehicle.
I believe that, in the long run, these loyalists will come to
defend the newly introduced Patriot with the same vigor. Even though
these jeepsters will continue to see this new addition to the lineup
as a softer Jeep, particularly when compared to a Wrangler, they will
see it carries on with the Jeep tradition. Just in a different
manner.
Jeeps of today are divided into two groups, those that are "trail
rated" and those that are not. The trail rating gets applied only to
the models that can make their way into and, more importantly, out of
some of the rugged backcountry trails. At one time this was defined as
traversing the Rubicon Trail in Northern California. That in part is
why there is a Wrangler Rubicon model in the Jeep line. These are the
most capable in terms of off-road competence. The point is in the past
every Jeep had to conquer the Rubicon Trail.
The softening comes when Jeep has allowed the trail rating to be
applied to vehicles such as the Patriot, knowing it would not be able
to make the 11-mile trek of strewn boulders and washes. An important
point here, however, is I just put the Patriot through two days of
hard driving that included some pretty aggressive off-road trekking
and this Jeep held up rather well.
Now, do I prefer the Wrangler Rubicon? You bet, I will always feel
a strong allegiance to this vehicle.
There are two basic versions, "trail rated" and on-road only. Two
engines are available in the lineup. The base engine is a 2.0-liter
four-cylinder engine that is designated as DaimlerChrysler's world
engine.
This engine will find an application in many vehicles around the
world, not just in North America.
This 2.0-liter engine isn't the most powerful engine, but it
delivers class-leading fuel economy at 26 miles per gallon city and 30
highway. On the other hand the stablemate 2.4-liter four-cylinder
engine raises the horsepower rating to 172. Granted not the powerhouse
of a big V-8, but it, too, has an admirable fuel economy rating as
high as 26 and 30 mpg for two-wheel drive.
Why would anyone choose the smaller engine with the same fuel
ratings? Because some individuals will be quite happy to have only
front-wheel drive and opt for the entry-level price of $14,530 for
their vehicle. There are two transmissions available, the base is a
standard five-speed manual.
Two four-wheel-drive systems are available. Freedom Drive I is a
system that offers drivers year-round assurance and added traction
during inclement weather.
To get four-wheel drive and the capability to go on the rugged
trails, you will need Freedom Drive II, which can only be outfitted
with a Constant Variable Transmission (CVT) equipped with low-gear
range and a locking coupling at the rear differential.
The system got me through every troubling situation. I forded 19
inches of water, climbed up and down over boulder-strewn ravines and
through foot-deep sand in river washes without a concern. Because of
the electronically controlled coupling I was able to teeter through
some rough country where two opposite wheels were off the ground and
the Patriot pulled me through.
I sure was surprised at the capabilities of this Jeep. And being
the value leader for the brand it is sure to bring new owners to the
fold. Granted they may not all be off-road enthusiasts, but if you put
yourself in that category and you don't want to put a huge strain on
your wallet, the Patriot is worth a good long look. Equipped with four-
wheel drive and the 2.4-liter engine, it will top out at just over
$25,000.
OK, not chump change, but well below what you might pay for others
in the same category.

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Old February 24th 07, 10:02 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Dave Milne
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Default "Patriot lives up to its Jeep label"

****, I was convinced that was a spoof with all that "Patriot", "Freedom
Drive" and 2.0 litre engine nonsense.
As it's true, somebody at DC is *really* taking in the **** out of you
guys....

Dave


"Mike" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> (I'm not a spammer. I have a Jeep Sport Cherokee and subscribe to
> rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Mike)
>
>
> Patriot lives up to its Jeep label
> By Ron Moorhead
> SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> Published February 23, 2007
> http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...5543-8759r.htm
> This Patriot offers freedom of the outback
> Jeep is in an interesting situation of late. Dealers want more
> models to offer buyers. They also do not want abandon the hearty brand
> image. Jeep leaders and dealers alike do not want to water down the
> brand while making these offerings to a broader market.
> Jeep is one of the strongest names known around the world as the
> rugged and most capable off-road and on-road vehicle. Granted many
> hard-core Jeep loyalists believe the leaders at Jeep have lost their
> vision of the Jeep vehicle.
> I believe that, in the long run, these loyalists will come to
> defend the newly introduced Patriot with the same vigor. Even though
> these jeepsters will continue to see this new addition to the lineup
> as a softer Jeep, particularly when compared to a Wrangler, they will
> see it carries on with the Jeep tradition. Just in a different
> manner.
> Jeeps of today are divided into two groups, those that are "trail
> rated" and those that are not. The trail rating gets applied only to
> the models that can make their way into and, more importantly, out of
> some of the rugged backcountry trails. At one time this was defined as
> traversing the Rubicon Trail in Northern California. That in part is
> why there is a Wrangler Rubicon model in the Jeep line. These are the
> most capable in terms of off-road competence. The point is in the past
> every Jeep had to conquer the Rubicon Trail.
> The softening comes when Jeep has allowed the trail rating to be
> applied to vehicles such as the Patriot, knowing it would not be able
> to make the 11-mile trek of strewn boulders and washes. An important
> point here, however, is I just put the Patriot through two days of
> hard driving that included some pretty aggressive off-road trekking
> and this Jeep held up rather well.
> Now, do I prefer the Wrangler Rubicon? You bet, I will always feel
> a strong allegiance to this vehicle.
> There are two basic versions, "trail rated" and on-road only. Two
> engines are available in the lineup. The base engine is a 2.0-liter
> four-cylinder engine that is designated as DaimlerChrysler's world
> engine.
> This engine will find an application in many vehicles around the
> world, not just in North America.
> This 2.0-liter engine isn't the most powerful engine, but it
> delivers class-leading fuel economy at 26 miles per gallon city and 30
> highway. On the other hand the stablemate 2.4-liter four-cylinder
> engine raises the horsepower rating to 172. Granted not the powerhouse
> of a big V-8, but it, too, has an admirable fuel economy rating as
> high as 26 and 30 mpg for two-wheel drive.
> Why would anyone choose the smaller engine with the same fuel
> ratings? Because some individuals will be quite happy to have only
> front-wheel drive and opt for the entry-level price of $14,530 for
> their vehicle. There are two transmissions available, the base is a
> standard five-speed manual.
> Two four-wheel-drive systems are available. Freedom Drive I is a
> system that offers drivers year-round assurance and added traction
> during inclement weather.
> To get four-wheel drive and the capability to go on the rugged
> trails, you will need Freedom Drive II, which can only be outfitted
> with a Constant Variable Transmission (CVT) equipped with low-gear
> range and a locking coupling at the rear differential.
> The system got me through every troubling situation. I forded 19
> inches of water, climbed up and down over boulder-strewn ravines and
> through foot-deep sand in river washes without a concern. Because of
> the electronically controlled coupling I was able to teeter through
> some rough country where two opposite wheels were off the ground and
> the Patriot pulled me through.
> I sure was surprised at the capabilities of this Jeep. And being
> the value leader for the brand it is sure to bring new owners to the
> fold. Granted they may not all be off-road enthusiasts, but if you put
> yourself in that category and you don't want to put a huge strain on
> your wallet, the Patriot is worth a good long look. Equipped with four-
> wheel drive and the 2.4-liter engine, it will top out at just over
> $25,000.
> OK, not chump change, but well below what you might pay for others
> in the same category.
>



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Old February 24th 07, 10:46 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III
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Default "Patriot lives up to its Jeep label"

I'm sure Germany will find a way to squash you too, probably with their
control over the Euro.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
o.uk...
> ****, I was convinced that was a spoof with all that "Patriot", "Freedom
> Drive" and 2.0 litre engine nonsense.
> As it's true, somebody at DC is *really* taking in the **** out of you
> guys....
>
> Dave
>
>
> "Mike" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > (I'm not a spammer. I have a Jeep Sport Cherokee and subscribe to
> > rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Mike)
> >
> >
> > Patriot lives up to its Jeep label
> > By Ron Moorhead
> > SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> > Published February 23, 2007
> > http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...5543-8759r.htm
> > This Patriot offers freedom of the outback
> > Jeep is in an interesting situation of late. Dealers want more
> > models to offer buyers. They also do not want abandon the hearty brand
> > image. Jeep leaders and dealers alike do not want to water down the
> > brand while making these offerings to a broader market.
> > Jeep is one of the strongest names known around the world as the
> > rugged and most capable off-road and on-road vehicle. Granted many
> > hard-core Jeep loyalists believe the leaders at Jeep have lost their
> > vision of the Jeep vehicle.
> > I believe that, in the long run, these loyalists will come to
> > defend the newly introduced Patriot with the same vigor. Even though
> > these jeepsters will continue to see this new addition to the lineup
> > as a softer Jeep, particularly when compared to a Wrangler, they will
> > see it carries on with the Jeep tradition. Just in a different
> > manner.
> > Jeeps of today are divided into two groups, those that are "trail
> > rated" and those that are not. The trail rating gets applied only to
> > the models that can make their way into and, more importantly, out of
> > some of the rugged backcountry trails. At one time this was defined as
> > traversing the Rubicon Trail in Northern California. That in part is
> > why there is a Wrangler Rubicon model in the Jeep line. These are the
> > most capable in terms of off-road competence. The point is in the past
> > every Jeep had to conquer the Rubicon Trail.
> > The softening comes when Jeep has allowed the trail rating to be
> > applied to vehicles such as the Patriot, knowing it would not be able
> > to make the 11-mile trek of strewn boulders and washes. An important
> > point here, however, is I just put the Patriot through two days of
> > hard driving that included some pretty aggressive off-road trekking
> > and this Jeep held up rather well.
> > Now, do I prefer the Wrangler Rubicon? You bet, I will always feel
> > a strong allegiance to this vehicle.
> > There are two basic versions, "trail rated" and on-road only. Two
> > engines are available in the lineup. The base engine is a 2.0-liter
> > four-cylinder engine that is designated as DaimlerChrysler's world
> > engine.
> > This engine will find an application in many vehicles around the
> > world, not just in North America.
> > This 2.0-liter engine isn't the most powerful engine, but it
> > delivers class-leading fuel economy at 26 miles per gallon city and 30
> > highway. On the other hand the stablemate 2.4-liter four-cylinder
> > engine raises the horsepower rating to 172. Granted not the powerhouse
> > of a big V-8, but it, too, has an admirable fuel economy rating as
> > high as 26 and 30 mpg for two-wheel drive.
> > Why would anyone choose the smaller engine with the same fuel
> > ratings? Because some individuals will be quite happy to have only
> > front-wheel drive and opt for the entry-level price of $14,530 for
> > their vehicle. There are two transmissions available, the base is a
> > standard five-speed manual.
> > Two four-wheel-drive systems are available. Freedom Drive I is a
> > system that offers drivers year-round assurance and added traction
> > during inclement weather.
> > To get four-wheel drive and the capability to go on the rugged
> > trails, you will need Freedom Drive II, which can only be outfitted
> > with a Constant Variable Transmission (CVT) equipped with low-gear
> > range and a locking coupling at the rear differential.
> > The system got me through every troubling situation. I forded 19
> > inches of water, climbed up and down over boulder-strewn ravines and
> > through foot-deep sand in river washes without a concern. Because of
> > the electronically controlled coupling I was able to teeter through
> > some rough country where two opposite wheels were off the ground and
> > the Patriot pulled me through.
> > I sure was surprised at the capabilities of this Jeep. And being
> > the value leader for the brand it is sure to bring new owners to the
> > fold. Granted they may not all be off-road enthusiasts, but if you put
> > yourself in that category and you don't want to put a huge strain on
> > your wallet, the Patriot is worth a good long look. Equipped with four-
> > wheel drive and the 2.4-liter engine, it will top out at just over
> > $25,000.
> > OK, not chump change, but well below what you might pay for others
> > in the same category.
> >

>
>




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Old February 24th 07, 11:07 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Dave Milne
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Default "Patriot lives up to its Jeep label"

Well, we don't use the euro yet ...
"Freedom drive" , Jeez. It was bad enough you got a vehicle called
"Liberty". Add a bit of brotherhood and equality and it will be perfectly
French.
Worst named vehicle since the Ford Probe which was presumably meant to sound
all space age, but instead rang more of a rectal examination...

Dave.

"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
.. .
> I'm sure Germany will find a way to squash you too, probably with

their
> control over the Euro.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> o.uk...
> > ****, I was convinced that was a spoof with all that "Patriot", "Freedom
> > Drive" and 2.0 litre engine nonsense.
> > As it's true, somebody at DC is *really* taking in the **** out of you
> > guys....
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > "Mike" > wrote in message
> > ups.com...
> > > (I'm not a spammer. I have a Jeep Sport Cherokee and subscribe to
> > > rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Mike)
> > >
> > >
> > > Patriot lives up to its Jeep label
> > > By Ron Moorhead
> > > SPECIAL TO THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> > > Published February 23, 2007
> > > http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...5543-8759r.htm
> > > This Patriot offers freedom of the outback
> > > Jeep is in an interesting situation of late. Dealers want more
> > > models to offer buyers. They also do not want abandon the hearty brand
> > > image. Jeep leaders and dealers alike do not want to water down the
> > > brand while making these offerings to a broader market.
> > > Jeep is one of the strongest names known around the world as the
> > > rugged and most capable off-road and on-road vehicle. Granted many
> > > hard-core Jeep loyalists believe the leaders at Jeep have lost their
> > > vision of the Jeep vehicle.
> > > I believe that, in the long run, these loyalists will come to
> > > defend the newly introduced Patriot with the same vigor. Even though
> > > these jeepsters will continue to see this new addition to the lineup
> > > as a softer Jeep, particularly when compared to a Wrangler, they will
> > > see it carries on with the Jeep tradition. Just in a different
> > > manner.
> > > Jeeps of today are divided into two groups, those that are "trail
> > > rated" and those that are not. The trail rating gets applied only to
> > > the models that can make their way into and, more importantly, out of
> > > some of the rugged backcountry trails. At one time this was defined as
> > > traversing the Rubicon Trail in Northern California. That in part is
> > > why there is a Wrangler Rubicon model in the Jeep line. These are the
> > > most capable in terms of off-road competence. The point is in the past
> > > every Jeep had to conquer the Rubicon Trail.
> > > The softening comes when Jeep has allowed the trail rating to be
> > > applied to vehicles such as the Patriot, knowing it would not be able
> > > to make the 11-mile trek of strewn boulders and washes. An important
> > > point here, however, is I just put the Patriot through two days of
> > > hard driving that included some pretty aggressive off-road trekking
> > > and this Jeep held up rather well.
> > > Now, do I prefer the Wrangler Rubicon? You bet, I will always feel
> > > a strong allegiance to this vehicle.
> > > There are two basic versions, "trail rated" and on-road only. Two
> > > engines are available in the lineup. The base engine is a 2.0-liter
> > > four-cylinder engine that is designated as DaimlerChrysler's world
> > > engine.
> > > This engine will find an application in many vehicles around the
> > > world, not just in North America.
> > > This 2.0-liter engine isn't the most powerful engine, but it
> > > delivers class-leading fuel economy at 26 miles per gallon city and 30
> > > highway. On the other hand the stablemate 2.4-liter four-cylinder
> > > engine raises the horsepower rating to 172. Granted not the powerhouse
> > > of a big V-8, but it, too, has an admirable fuel economy rating as
> > > high as 26 and 30 mpg for two-wheel drive.
> > > Why would anyone choose the smaller engine with the same fuel
> > > ratings? Because some individuals will be quite happy to have only
> > > front-wheel drive and opt for the entry-level price of $14,530 for
> > > their vehicle. There are two transmissions available, the base is a
> > > standard five-speed manual.
> > > Two four-wheel-drive systems are available. Freedom Drive I is a
> > > system that offers drivers year-round assurance and added traction
> > > during inclement weather.
> > > To get four-wheel drive and the capability to go on the rugged
> > > trails, you will need Freedom Drive II, which can only be outfitted
> > > with a Constant Variable Transmission (CVT) equipped with low-gear
> > > range and a locking coupling at the rear differential.
> > > The system got me through every troubling situation. I forded 19
> > > inches of water, climbed up and down over boulder-strewn ravines and
> > > through foot-deep sand in river washes without a concern. Because of
> > > the electronically controlled coupling I was able to teeter through
> > > some rough country where two opposite wheels were off the ground and
> > > the Patriot pulled me through.
> > > I sure was surprised at the capabilities of this Jeep. And being
> > > the value leader for the brand it is sure to bring new owners to the
> > > fold. Granted they may not all be off-road enthusiasts, but if you put
> > > yourself in that category and you don't want to put a huge strain on
> > > your wallet, the Patriot is worth a good long look. Equipped with

four-
> > > wheel drive and the 2.4-liter engine, it will top out at just over
> > > $25,000.
> > > OK, not chump change, but well below what you might pay for others
> > > in the same category.
> > >

> >
> >

>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>



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Old February 24th 07, 11:43 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III
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Default "Patriot lives up to its Jeep label"

Agreed.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
http://www.billhughes.com/

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
o.uk...
> Well, we don't use the euro yet ...
> "Freedom drive" , Jeez. It was bad enough you got a vehicle called
> "Liberty". Add a bit of brotherhood and equality and it will be perfectly
> French.
> Worst named vehicle since the Ford Probe which was presumably meant to

sound
> all space age, but instead rang more of a rectal examination...
>
> Dave.




--
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  #6  
Old February 25th 07, 02:26 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Highcountry
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Default "Patriot lives up to its Jeep label"


Unless you are a fan of Toyotas, the "patriot" is a Joke!

A good friend of mine has a new '06 Wrangler, and even though it is
"nice" I personally would not care to own it. I do not care for
plastic... At least with the '87 through '96 Wrangler, you could rip
the plastic dash out and replace it with "Retro" version if you
preferred!

I am just a Neanderthal!!

Bruce

  #7  
Old February 25th 07, 04:56 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
Matt Macchiarolo
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Posts: 686
Default "Patriot lives up to its Jeep label"

Yep, you could enjoy your retro dash in between chiropractor's visits...

BTW there was no '96 Wrangler. The last YJ was model year '95 and the TJ was
introduced in mid 96 as a '97 model.

"Highcountry" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Unless you are a fan of Toyotas, the "patriot" is a Joke!
>
> A good friend of mine has a new '06 Wrangler, and even though it is
> "nice" I personally would not care to own it. I do not care for
> plastic... At least with the '87 through '96 Wrangler, you could rip
> the plastic dash out and replace it with "Retro" version if you
> preferred!
>
> I am just a Neanderthal!!
>
> Bruce
>



 




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