"What do I have" Question

I cant find it anywhere - not sure if owners manual has this info - I
have a 2002 TJ Sahara. What Diff do I have? Dana 35? Is it limited
slip? When I take off fast in dirt both wheels spin - I thought it was
a locked rear. Wouldn't be good for corners on pavement if it was tho.
Anyways sorry for the newbie question.

You probably have an open Dana35c.

There should be a tag on the differential that will say if it hasn't been
removed or fallen off.

You can also get a 'build sheet' at your local dealer or via customer
assistance on the Jeep web site. The build sheet will list the components
used to build your Jeep.


> wrote in message
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>I cant find it anywhere - not sure if owners manual has this info - I
> have a 2002 TJ Sahara. What Diff do I have? Dana 35? Is it limited
> slip? When I take off fast in dirt both wheels spin - I thought it was
> a locked rear. Wouldn't be good for corners on pavement if it was tho.
> Anyways sorry for the newbie question.
>

Most Saharas came with the limited slip rear. It could be a DANA 35, but
the DANA 44 was an option. Like billy ray said, get the build sheet.
customerassist at daimlerchrysler dot com

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JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries

00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i

>I cant find it anywhere - not sure if owners manual has this info - I
> have a 2002 TJ Sahara. What Diff do I have? Dana 35? Is it limited
> slip? When I take off fast in dirt both wheels spin - I thought it was
> a locked rear. Wouldn't be good for corners on pavement if it was tho.
> Anyways sorry for the newbie question.
>

it is probably the 44 but you need to check here is a link with pics

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN

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To see if you have an open diff or not, you jack up the rear wheels and
rotate one. If the other turns the same way, you have a locker or
limited slip. If the other turns opposite, you have an open diff.

When you take off, 'equal' torque is sent to both rear wheels. If they
both have 'equal' traction, they will both spin loose at the same time.

The fun starts when one has no traction like on ice. It will then spin
using 'very little' torque to do so, so the exact same 'very little'
torque gets sent to the tire on dirt and you just sit there....

The owners manual has a trick for this. If you load up the spinning
tire with the brakes, the torque needed to keep it spinning raises way
up. It will eventually get to and equal the torque needed to break the
tire on the dirt loose so you get both wheels spinning and away you go.

The manual says to use the parking brake for this. I have much better
luck using the brake pedal. I give it a hard shot on the brake while
giving gas and usually can get 3 rooster tails going and sometimes all 4
even. The back drums work better for this than the front disks it seems
to me anyway.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

wrote:
>
> I cant find it anywhere - not sure if owners manual has this info - I
> have a 2002 TJ Sahara. What Diff do I have? Dana 35? Is it limited
> slip? When I take off fast in dirt both wheels spin - I thought it was
> a locked rear. Wouldn't be good for corners on pavement if it was tho.
> Anyways sorry for the newbie question.

Mike Romain wrote:
> To see if you have an open diff or not, you jack up the rear wheels and
> rotate one. If the other turns the same way, you have a locker or
> limited slip. If the other turns opposite, you have an open diff.
>
> When you take off, 'equal' torque is sent to both rear wheels. If they
> both have 'equal' traction, they will both spin loose at the same time.
>
> The fun starts when one has no traction like on ice. It will then spin
> using 'very little' torque to do so, so the exact same 'very little'
> torque gets sent to the tire on dirt and you just sit there....
>
> The owners manual has a trick for this. If you load up the spinning
> tire with the brakes, the torque needed to keep it spinning raises way
> up. It will eventually get to and equal the torque needed to break the
> tire on the dirt loose so you get both wheels spinning and away you go.
>
> The manual says to use the parking brake for this. I have much better
> luck using the brake pedal. I give it a hard shot on the brake while
> giving gas and usually can get 3 rooster tails going and sometimes all 4
> even. The back drums work better for this than the front disks it seems
> to me anyway.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590


Awesome everyone. Thanks.,
I have a feeling its a 44 because the guy I bought it from slapped
EVERYthing on it. even the option windjammer. I'll let u know soon.

wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > To see if you have an open diff or not, you jack up the rear wheels and
> > rotate one. If the other turns the same way, you have a locker or
> > limited slip. If the other turns opposite, you have an open diff.
> >
> > When you take off, 'equal' torque is sent to both rear wheels. If they
> > both have 'equal' traction, they will both spin loose at the same time.
> >
> > The fun starts when one has no traction like on ice. It will then spin
> > using 'very little' torque to do so, so the exact same 'very little'
> > torque gets sent to the tire on dirt and you just sit there....
> >
> > The owners manual has a trick for this. If you load up the spinning
> > tire with the brakes, the torque needed to keep it spinning raises way
> > up. It will eventually get to and equal the torque needed to break the
> > tire on the dirt loose so you get both wheels spinning and away you go.
> >
> > The manual says to use the parking brake for this. I have much better
> > luck using the brake pedal. I give it a hard shot on the brake while
> > giving gas and usually can get 3 rooster tails going and sometimes all 4
> > even. The back drums work better for this than the front disks it seems
> > to me anyway.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>
> Awesome everyone. Thanks.,
> I have a feeling its a 44 because the guy I bought it from slapped
> EVERYthing on it. even the option windjammer. I'll let u know soon.

A 44 will look like an apple laying on it's side. The 35 has a round
cover with a rubber plug hole in it.

Mike

If memory serves, the Sahara has the 30" Tire/Wheel Group as part of the
package. In this case, I think you would have the Dana 44 unless you have
ABS as well, in which case you definitely have the 35. In both cases you
would have the limited slip.

> wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> To see if you have an open diff or not, you jack up the rear wheels and
>> rotate one. If the other turns the same way, you have a locker or
>> limited slip. If the other turns opposite, you have an open diff.
>>
>> When you take off, 'equal' torque is sent to both rear wheels. If they
>> both have 'equal' traction, they will both spin loose at the same time.
>>
>> The fun starts when one has no traction like on ice. It will then spin
>> using 'very little' torque to do so, so the exact same 'very little'
>> torque gets sent to the tire on dirt and you just sit there....
>>
>> The owners manual has a trick for this. If you load up the spinning
>> tire with the brakes, the torque needed to keep it spinning raises way
>> up. It will eventually get to and equal the torque needed to break the
>> tire on the dirt loose so you get both wheels spinning and away you go.
>>
>> The manual says to use the parking brake for this. I have much better
>> luck using the brake pedal. I give it a hard shot on the brake while
>> giving gas and usually can get 3 rooster tails going and sometimes all 4
>> even. The back drums work better for this than the front disks it seems
>> to me anyway.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>
>
> Awesome everyone. Thanks.,
> I have a feeling its a 44 because the guy I bought it from slapped
> EVERYthing on it. even the option windjammer. I'll let u know soon.
>

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> If memory serves, the Sahara has the 30" Tire/Wheel Group as part of the
> package. In this case, I think you would have the Dana 44 unless you have
> ABS as well, in which case you definitely have the 35. In both cases you
> would have the limited slip.
>

No ABS.. They tires do seem 30"
I have to check at lunchtime outside. I'll look at those pics posted
too. Looks like the 44 so far.

Your best bet is to get a build sheet from Chrysler. It will tell you
everything it's equiped with. Also, post a picture of your rear end housing
or 'pumpkin'. We'll be able to tell you what it is in short order.

Carl


> wrote in message
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>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> If memory serves, the Sahara has the 30" Tire/Wheel Group as part of the
>> package. In this case, I think you would have the Dana 44 unless you have
>> ABS as well, in which case you definitely have the 35. In both cases you
>> would have the limited slip.
>>
>
> No ABS.. They tires do seem 30"
> I have to check at lunchtime outside. I'll look at those pics posted
> too. Looks like the 44 so far.
>