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Old December 29th 09, 01:54 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Grumpy AuContraire[_4_]
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Default Advice on replacing 94-97 Accord muffler? Dealing with rubberhangers?

Tegger wrote:
> jim beam > wrote in
> t:
>
>> On 12/27/2009 01:29 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

>
>>> In the 1970's, I was involved in a research/documentary project where
>>> one of the issues was the destruction of the tropical corral reefs by
>>> the Acanthaster planci. There are still some who are alarmed by its
>>> continued existence. A lot of resources were devoted to remedial action
>>> but in the end, it just turned out to be a cyclical event. After that
>>> experience, I vowed then never to be misled by bad science.

>> that story would be more believable [and thus more credible] if you
>> spelled it "coral", not corral.
>>

>
>
>
> If a man who smokes tells you not to smoke because it's bad for your
> health, is his message invalid because he himself smokes? Ignore the
> (stupidly trivial) spelling mistake and pay attention to Grumpy's point.


As I just explained in a just posted reply, the "corral" instead of
coral is probably due to my habit of stuffing myself at the Golden
Corral on a weekly basis. Irony would have it that an individual who
criticizes spelling while himself cannot find a "shift" key is... well,
ironic..



> And in these days of Google, failure to do your own believability tests is
> inexcusably argumentative.
>
> I find it faintly distasteful how many Usenet/Web-board denizens demand
> cites and proofs on points that they dislike. That demand can be translated
> essentially as, "I hate what you're saying but I can't refute it (or don't
> feel like doing so), so I'll put the onus on you by making a ridiculous
> demand".
> And then there are the attempts at deflection from the core issue, like
> pointing out spelling mistakes, or ad hominem attacks.
>
> I did some digging for you. Here,
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown-of-Thorns_Starfish>
> Grumpy just might be correct.


I should be. I was there in person.


> He is certainly correct to beware of bad science. "Climate change"
> activists absolutely depend upon execrably bad science; their contentions
> do not hold up under /any/ sort of scrutiny.


Prior to the recent revelations of numbers cooking, they almost had the
masses convinced. Thankfully, it's all unraveling hopefully just like
the ol' Watergate event.
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Old December 29th 09, 02:17 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
AZ Nomad[_3_]
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Default Advice on replacing 94-97 Accord muffler? Dealing with rubberhangers?

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:54:52 -0600, Grumpy AuContraire > wrote:
>Tegger wrote:
>> jim beam > wrote in
>> t:
>>
>>> On 12/27/2009 01:29 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:

>>
>>>> In the 1970's, I was involved in a research/documentary project where
>>>> one of the issues was the destruction of the tropical corral reefs by
>>>> the Acanthaster planci. There are still some who are alarmed by its
>>>> continued existence. A lot of resources were devoted to remedial action
>>>> but in the end, it just turned out to be a cyclical event. After that
>>>> experience, I vowed then never to be misled by bad science.
>>> that story would be more believable [and thus more credible] if you
>>> spelled it "coral", not corral.
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> If a man who smokes tells you not to smoke because it's bad for your
>> health, is his message invalid because he himself smokes? Ignore the
>> (stupidly trivial) spelling mistake and pay attention to Grumpy's point.


>As I just explained in a just posted reply, the "corral" instead of
>coral is probably due to my habit of stuffing myself at the Golden
>Corral on a weekly basis. Irony would have it that an individual who
>criticizes spelling while himself cannot find a "shift" key is... well,
>ironic..




>> And in these days of Google, failure to do your own believability tests is
>> inexcusably argumentative.
>>
>> I find it faintly distasteful how many Usenet/Web-board denizens demand
>> cites and proofs on points that they dislike. That demand can be translated
>> essentially as, "I hate what you're saying but I can't refute it (or don't
>> feel like doing so), so I'll put the onus on you by making a ridiculous
>> demand".
>> And then there are the attempts at deflection from the core issue, like
>> pointing out spelling mistakes, or ad hominem attacks.
>>
>> I did some digging for you. Here,
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown-of-Thorns_Starfish>
>> Grumpy just might be correct.


>I should be. I was there in person.



>> He is certainly correct to beware of bad science. "Climate change"
>> activists absolutely depend upon execrably bad science; their contentions
>> do not hold up under /any/ sort of scrutiny.


>Prior to the recent revelations of numbers cooking, they almost had the
>masses convinced. Thankfully, it's all unraveling hopefully just like
>the ol' Watergate event.


Co2 levels are rising. It is a fact. Get over it.
  #3  
Old December 29th 09, 01:24 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Joe[_126_]
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On 2009-12-29, AZ Nomad > wrote:
>
> Co2 levels are rising. It is a fact. Get over it.


Thanks. Now that the issue is resolved...

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Old December 29th 09, 06:43 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Tegger[_2_]
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AZ Nomad > wrote in
:

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:54:52 -0600, Grumpy AuContraire
> > wrote:
>>Tegger wrote:


>>> He is certainly correct to beware of bad science. "Climate change"
>>> activists absolutely depend upon execrably bad science; their
>>> contentions do not hold up under /any/ sort of scrutiny.

>
>>Prior to the recent revelations of numbers cooking, they almost had
>>the masses convinced. Thankfully, it's all unraveling hopefully just
>>like the ol' Watergate event.

>
> Co2 levels are rising. It is a fact. Get over it.
>




Sure are. And that's a GOOD thing.

<http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/12/12/lawrence-solomon-the-gas-of-life.aspx>


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Old December 29th 09, 07:38 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
Grumpy AuContraire[_4_]
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Default Advice on replacing 94-97 Accord muffler? Dealing with rubberhangers?

AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:54:52 -0600, Grumpy AuContraire > wrote:
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> jim beam > wrote in
>>> t:
>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2009 01:29 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>>> In the 1970's, I was involved in a research/documentary project where
>>>>> one of the issues was the destruction of the tropical corral reefs by
>>>>> the Acanthaster planci. There are still some who are alarmed by its
>>>>> continued existence. A lot of resources were devoted to remedial action
>>>>> but in the end, it just turned out to be a cyclical event. After that
>>>>> experience, I vowed then never to be misled by bad science.
>>>> that story would be more believable [and thus more credible] if you
>>>> spelled it "coral", not corral.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If a man who smokes tells you not to smoke because it's bad for your
>>> health, is his message invalid because he himself smokes? Ignore the
>>> (stupidly trivial) spelling mistake and pay attention to Grumpy's point.

>
>> As I just explained in a just posted reply, the "corral" instead of
>> coral is probably due to my habit of stuffing myself at the Golden
>> Corral on a weekly basis. Irony would have it that an individual who
>> criticizes spelling while himself cannot find a "shift" key is... well,
>> ironic..

>
>
>
>>> And in these days of Google, failure to do your own believability tests is
>>> inexcusably argumentative.
>>>
>>> I find it faintly distasteful how many Usenet/Web-board denizens demand
>>> cites and proofs on points that they dislike. That demand can be translated
>>> essentially as, "I hate what you're saying but I can't refute it (or don't
>>> feel like doing so), so I'll put the onus on you by making a ridiculous
>>> demand".
>>> And then there are the attempts at deflection from the core issue, like
>>> pointing out spelling mistakes, or ad hominem attacks.
>>>
>>> I did some digging for you. Here,
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown-of-Thorns_Starfish>
>>> Grumpy just might be correct.

>
>> I should be. I was there in person.

>
>
>>> He is certainly correct to beware of bad science. "Climate change"
>>> activists absolutely depend upon execrably bad science; their contentions
>>> do not hold up under /any/ sort of scrutiny.

>
>> Prior to the recent revelations of numbers cooking, they almost had the
>> masses convinced. Thankfully, it's all unraveling hopefully just like
>> the ol' Watergate event.

>
> Co2 levels are rising. It is a fact. Get over it.



Enjoy the kool aid...

JT
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Old December 30th 09, 04:45 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
M.A. Stewart
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Default Advice on replacing 94-97 Accord muffler? Dealing with rubber hangers?

AZ Nomad ) writes:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:54:52 -0600, Grumpy AuContraire > wrote:
>>Tegger wrote:
>>> jim beam > wrote in
>>> t:
>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2009 01:29 PM, Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>>>
>>>>> In the 1970's, I was involved in a research/documentary project where
>>>>> one of the issues was the destruction of the tropical corral reefs by
>>>>> the Acanthaster planci. There are still some who are alarmed by its
>>>>> continued existence. A lot of resources were devoted to remedial action
>>>>> but in the end, it just turned out to be a cyclical event. After that
>>>>> experience, I vowed then never to be misled by bad science.
>>>> that story would be more believable [and thus more credible] if you
>>>> spelled it "coral", not corral.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If a man who smokes tells you not to smoke because it's bad for your
>>> health, is his message invalid because he himself smokes? Ignore the
>>> (stupidly trivial) spelling mistake and pay attention to Grumpy's point.

>
>>As I just explained in a just posted reply, the "corral" instead of
>>coral is probably due to my habit of stuffing myself at the Golden
>>Corral on a weekly basis. Irony would have it that an individual who
>>criticizes spelling while himself cannot find a "shift" key is... well,
>>ironic..

>
>
>
>>> And in these days of Google, failure to do your own believability tests is
>>> inexcusably argumentative.
>>>
>>> I find it faintly distasteful how many Usenet/Web-board denizens demand
>>> cites and proofs on points that they dislike. That demand can be translated
>>> essentially as, "I hate what you're saying but I can't refute it (or don't
>>> feel like doing so), so I'll put the onus on you by making a ridiculous
>>> demand".
>>> And then there are the attempts at deflection from the core issue, like
>>> pointing out spelling mistakes, or ad hominem attacks.
>>>
>>> I did some digging for you. Here,
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown-of-Thorns_Starfish>
>>> Grumpy just might be correct.

>
>>I should be. I was there in person.



Is 'wiki/Crown-of-Thorns_Starfish' correct?


>
>
>>> He is certainly correct to beware of bad science. "Climate change"
>>> activists absolutely depend upon execrably bad science; their contentions
>>> do not hold up under /any/ sort of scrutiny.

>
>>Prior to the recent revelations of numbers cooking, they almost had the
>>masses convinced. Thankfully, it's all unraveling hopefully just like
>>the ol' Watergate event.

>
> Co2 levels are rising. It is a fact. Get over it.



Molecular cobalt (Co) levels are rising???



 




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