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Old April 21st 06, 03:44 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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what dictates the price tag at the pumps - today?

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Old April 21st 06, 04:18 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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The intersection of Supply and Demand

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Supply and demand.(china and domestic overpopulation)
Lack of new refineries.
Lack of refineries that can refine the heavy crude.
Lack of alternate fuels.
Lack of electric cars.
Lack of sufficient nuclear plant capacity to reduce dependence on
natural gas.
Lack of sufficient nuclear plant capacity to power electric cars if we
had them.
Auto companies that aren't innovatiog or otherwise don't care about gas
mileage. I mean, why can't I buy a diesel hybrid that I can run off of
vegetable oil? Why no hybrid that can run off ethanol?

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Old April 21st 06, 06:35 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Speculative crude oil futures (prices) as much as anything.


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Old April 21st 06, 10:06 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Florent Gilles wrote:
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> le 21/04/2006 16:44, :
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> > what dictates the price tag at the pumps - today?

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> War on Iraq ?


Iran.

Venezuela.

Nigeria.

etc....

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Old April 21st 06, 10:26 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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> Supply and demand.(china and domestic overpopulation)
> Lack of new refineries.
> Lack of refineries that can refine the heavy crude.
> Lack of alternate fuels.
> Lack of electric cars.
> Lack of sufficient nuclear plant capacity to reduce dependence on
> natural gas.
> Lack of sufficient nuclear plant capacity to power electric cars if we
> had them.
> Auto companies that aren't innovatiog or otherwise don't care about gas
> mileage. I mean, why can't I buy a diesel hybrid that I can run off of
> vegetable oil? Why no hybrid that can run off ethanol?


In the immediate term there are several refineries that are off line
for maintenance now. Ordinarily those refineries would have performed
maintenance in the fall when demand is low, but Katrina took out
refining capacity in the south so other refineries had to stay open.
That is putting a lot of pressure on prices.

In the longer term we only have to much oil to pump from the ground and
it is getting more difficult to find. At the same time we continue to
burn increasing amounts of it in the form of gasoline. Look at all of
the multi-car families and cars with big inefficient engines. Also
consider all of the non-fuel products that consume petroleum.

We waste a lot and we do have to begin to look for more efficient ways
to live. And yes we need to look for alternatives. But I suspect that
since most of us try to defer financial pain for as long as possible,
we will not make the hard decisions until there is a more or less
permanent crisis.

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Old April 22nd 06, 01:45 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

> Florent Gilles wrote:
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> > le 21/04/2006 16:44, :
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> > > what dictates the price tag at the pumps - today?

> >
> > War on Iraq ?

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> Iran.
>
> Venezuela.
>
> Nigeria.
>
> etc....




Generally, political unrest anywhere, that threatens to disrupt supply.

Oil is an extremely political commodity, especially considering that
much of it comes from regions of the world that are saddled with
extremely bad governments.







 




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