Possible Trolls?

Does anyone else wonder if the sudden rash of posts about issues with the
new hemi are from trolls? I mean, c'mon, the GC isn't the only vehicle with
the hemi (Magnum, Dodge P/U, etc.). Not saying it is or isn't true, but it
just seems like there are a few "newbies" posting the same things. If the
problem was that widespread we'd have heard about it a long time ago from
owners of the other vehicles (through news reports or at least the
grapevine).

Eric
99 TJ SE

Eric did pass the time by typing:
> Does anyone else wonder if the sudden rash of posts about issues with the
> new hemi are from trolls? I mean, c'mon, the GC isn't the only vehicle with
> the hemi (Magnum, Dodge P/U, etc.). Not saying it is or isn't true, but it
> just seems like there are a few "newbies" posting the same things. If the
> problem was that widespread we'd have heard about it a long time ago from
> owners of the other vehicles (through news reports or at least the
> grapevine).

They aren't the same engine/ecu combination and programming.

Lots of year1 vehicles have bugs. Some serious like the 93ZJ (mine) and the
recall that fixed the steering shaft so it wouldn't just fall off leaving the
driver without any steering. nice, huh? :I

--
DougW

Hi Eric,
That, and the new Hemi owners are used to sewing machine sized rice
burners, and have no idea that a full sized American V8 is instantly
stopping and starting a hundred pounds of metal, five thousand time a
minute. It's like the difference between shooting a twenty two caliber
and a Thirty Ought Six.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Does anyone else wonder if the sudden rash of posts about issues with the
> new hemi are from trolls? I mean, c'mon, the GC isn't the only vehicle with
> the hemi (Magnum, Dodge P/U, etc.). Not saying it is or isn't true, but it
> just seems like there are a few "newbies" posting the same things. If the
> problem was that widespread we'd have heard about it a long time ago from
> owners of the other vehicles (through news reports or at least the
> grapevine).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE

??

Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Eric,
> That, and the new Hemi owners are used to sewing machine sized rice
> burners, and have no idea that a full sized American V8 is instantly
> stopping and starting a hundred pounds of metal, five thousand time a
> minute. It's like the difference between shooting a twenty two caliber
> and a Thirty Ought Six.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone else wonder if the sudden rash of posts about issues with
the
> > new hemi are from trolls? I mean, c'mon, the GC isn't the only vehicle
with
> > the hemi (Magnum, Dodge P/U, etc.). Not saying it is or isn't true, but
it
> > just seems like there are a few "newbies" posting the same things. If
the
> > problem was that widespread we'd have heard about it a long time ago
from
> > owners of the other vehicles (through news reports or at least the
> > grapevine).
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE

In message > , "Dave Milne"
wrote:

>??
>
>Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.

Hey, no fair bringing in facts. LOL!

>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Eric,
>> That, and the new Hemi owners are used to sewing machine sized rice
>> burners, and have no idea that a full sized American V8 is instantly
>> stopping and starting a hundred pounds of metal, five thousand time a
>> minute. It's like the difference between shooting a twenty two caliber
>> and a Thirty Ought Six.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> http://www.billhughes.com/
>>
>> Eric wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone else wonder if the sudden rash of posts about issues with
>the
>> > new hemi are from trolls? I mean, c'mon, the GC isn't the only vehicle
>with
>> > the hemi (Magnum, Dodge P/U, etc.). Not saying it is or isn't true, but
>it
>> > just seems like there are a few "newbies" posting the same things. If
>the
>> > problem was that widespread we'd have heard about it a long time ago
>from
>> > owners of the other vehicles (through news reports or at least the
>> > grapevine).
>> >
>> > Eric
>> > 99 TJ SE
>

Dave?
Is the aluminum piston the only thing that stops and changes
direction? aren't they hooked to a forged steel rod? Don't the lifters
start and stop? Aren't they hooked to push rods, rockers, valves, valve
springs, keepers, and retainers? for a total of seven hundred pounds.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> ??
>
> Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Not the same engine as far as I have heard.

The Jeep version has the stupid 8 to 4 cylinder engine like the old GM
abortion they tried on the Caddy.

One article somewhere said they couldn't use it on the pickup because
it, the engine, couldn't handle load.

So much for the 'Hemi'. What a joke.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Does anyone else wonder if the sudden rash of posts about issues with the
> new hemi are from trolls? I mean, c'mon, the GC isn't the only vehicle with
> the hemi (Magnum, Dodge P/U, etc.). Not saying it is or isn't true, but it
> just seems like there are a few "newbies" posting the same things. If the
> problem was that widespread we'd have heard about it a long time ago from
> owners of the other vehicles (through news reports or at least the
> grapevine).
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 07:34:58 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> wrote:

>??
>
>Hemi pistons weigh 413 grams, less than a lb each. Not 12.5 lb each.

Don't forget the weight of the connecting rod and wrist pin. Still not
12.5 pounds tho

John



John Davies TLCA 14732
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

??? You might want to ask my friend with a Ram with the hemi which engine he
has...

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
> One article somewhere said they couldn't use it on the pickup because
> it, the engine, couldn't handle load.

You snipped that wrong.

It's not the hemi that is the trouble, it's the ignition that makes it
run on only 4 cylinders. Hence my reference to the failed GM 8, 6, 4
engine.

Ask you buddy if his hemi runs on 4 cylinders or not.

Mike

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> ??? You might want to ask my friend with a Ram with the hemi which engine he
> has...
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One article somewhere said they couldn't use it on the pickup because
> > it, the engine, couldn't handle load.