Running a car on water via electrolysis

On Sat, Lancaster > wrote:


>Many more references at
>http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/mi...ydrogensup.htm
>
>The bottom line is that the info has been available for three decades
>and nobody has gotten it to work in a trucker acceptable manner.
>
>It took something like fifteen minutes for truckers to worldwide adopt
>the above-cab fairings for mileage improvements.

Why in God's name they are trying to use hydrogen
or hydrogen reforming is a mystery, any fuel with high hydrogen
content has to improve the diesel burn and emissions.
There are hundreds of garages that are installing
dual fuel systems that inject other liquid or gaseous fuels
into the cylinders or individual cylinder ports while in cruise,
still running all diesel at idle, and at least 20 percent diesel
or more all the time.

But truckers don't like carrying certain fuels because
of the fire hazard in accidents. As ethanol is used more
in high visibility events like the Indy 500, there will be more
truckers willing to use ethanol induction both for better burn
and for lower cost if oil prices stay high or go up more.

Incidently, the refineries must be catching up on
production after the change over to low sulfur diesel,
I saw the price differential down to 15 cents yesterday.

Joe Fischer

In article >, Don Lancaster says...
> Many more references at
> http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/mi...ydrogensup.htm
>
> The bottom line is that the info has been available for three decades
> and nobody has gotten it to work in a trucker acceptable manner.

These guys claim to have:

http://chechfi.ca/sohfitech.htm

They havn't been around long enough for overnight adoption and I don't
know of independant tests.

Robert




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Robert Adsett wrote:
> In article >, Don Lancaster says...
>
>>Many more references at
>>http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/mi...ydrogensup.htm
>>
>>The bottom line is that the info has been available for three decades
>>and nobody has gotten it to work in a trucker acceptable manner.
>
>
> These guys claim to have:
>
> http://chechfi.ca/sohfitech.htm
>
> They havn't been around long enough for overnight adoption and I don't
> know of independant tests.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
Can you spell "scam"?


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>
> Did you say EE? :-) A 2500 HP dragline
> motor with precise speed control with Silicone
> Controlled Rectifiers running directly off a high
> voltage AC line makes me smile.

Yawn.

Electric machinery that makes me smile? How about a GE 6000 HP
locomotive with AC traction motors. 6000-horsepower V16 turbocharged
diesel that runs with in a hair's breadth of the theoretical maximum
Carnot efficiency, driving an alternator that can absorb that power.
Rectify that, then feed it through a computer-controlled
variable-frequency drive that converts it back into precisely controlled
AC that works seamlessly with traction control to prevent wheelspin. 3
of them can replace 5 4400 horespower DC locomotives.

Now THAT is a combination of electrical and mechanical engineering!

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:57:12 -0600, Steve > wrote:

>> Did you say EE? :-) A 2500 HP dragline
>> motor with precise speed control with Silicone
>> Controlled Rectifiers running directly off a high
>> voltage AC line makes me smile.
>
>Yawn.
>
>Electric machinery that makes me smile? How about a GE 6000 HP
>locomotive with AC traction motors. 6000-horsepower V16 turbocharged
>diesel that runs with in a hair's breadth of the theoretical maximum
>Carnot efficiency, driving an alternator that can absorb that power.
>Rectify that, then feed it through a computer-controlled
>variable-frequency drive that converts it back into precisely controlled
>AC that works seamlessly with traction control to prevent wheelspin. 3
>of them can replace 5 4400 horespower DC locomotives.
>
>Now THAT is a combination of electrical and mechanical engineering!

Can you scale that down to a car for me to drive?

Joe Fischer

In article >, Don Lancaster says...
> Robert Adsett wrote:
> > In article >, Don Lancaster says...
> >
> >>Many more references at
> >>http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/mi...ydrogensup.htm
> >>
> >>The bottom line is that the info has been available for three decades
> >>and nobody has gotten it to work in a trucker acceptable manner.
> >
> >
> > These guys claim to have:
> >
> > http://chechfi.ca/sohfitech.htm
> >
> > They havn't been around long enough for overnight adoption and I don't
> > know of independant tests.
> >
> >
> Can you spell "scam"?

Wouldn't surprise me.

Robert

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> On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:57:12 -0600, Steve > wrote:
>
>>Electric machinery that makes me smile? How about a GE 6000 HP
>>locomotive with AC traction motors. 6000-horsepower V16 turbocharged
>>diesel that runs with in a hair's breadth of the theoretical maximum
>>Carnot efficiency, driving an alternator that can absorb that power.
>>Rectify that, then feed it through a computer-controlled
>>variable-frequency drive that converts it back into precisely controlled
>>AC that works seamlessly with traction control to prevent wheelspin. 3
>>of them can replace 5 4400 horespower DC locomotives.
>>
>>Now THAT is a combination of electrical and mechanical engineering!

Joe Fischer wrote:
> Can you scale that down to a car for me to drive?

Already done - One example is the Toyota Prius. It uses a petrol engine
using a Rankin cycle (better efficiency than a standard engine) running
at basically constant RPM at optimal efficiency point when on. The
energy of the engine is used to drive the wheels via an ingenious system
of differentials and electronically controlled motor-generators. Toyota
call it 'Hybrid Synergy Drive' - have a look at the Wikipedia, there is
some good info on how it all works there.

Calvin (Brisbane Australia)

PS: I don't own one, but would love to when the price drops a bit more.