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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "B A R R Y" > wrote in message > m... >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >>> Sounds like you need a lot more flaky women between the ages of 18 and >>> 23. From observing VWs, that seems to be 99% of the target customers. >> >> They'll be the ones passing in the breakdown lane @ 70 MPH, while never >> missing a word on the cell. <G> > > .....while putting on lip gloss. > > Don't forget searching the Ipod for a better song! All at the same time... |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
Take your pick
VW Golf (Rabbit) Great car, mediocre reliability Toyota Matrix (Corolla) Mediocre car, great reliability "WT" > wrote in message ... >I have been driving a 1986 VW GTI for the past 10 years, and since she's > starting to show her 20 years of age, I may soon be looking for a > replacement. My VW driving and owning experiences have been good, > although > certainly not flawless. Here in Canada, VW are offering the 2007 City > Golf > for a very reasonable price. It's basically a 4-door A4 Golf, 2.0L > engine, > disk brakes on all 4 corners. With options like air conditioning and > cruise > control, it prices in around $20K CDN. Pretty good warranty. I like the > hatchback versatility, and like I said, I have enjoyed driving my GTI. > > However, as many of you will know, VW are not necessarily leaders in > reliability, at least according to the summaries in Consumer Reports and > other sources. Toyotas seem to rank much better in the reliabilty area. > (Yes, I know those are statistics, and it is possible to get a > trouble-free > VW or a lemon Toyota.) Looking at Toyota's lineup, the Matrix is the > closest match to the City Golf, in terms of size and configuration. With > similar options, the Matrix price is comparable, perhaps a bit higher. > From > doing some on-line comparisons, here are some pros that I've found for > each: > > VW City Golf - > ========== > PROS: better warranty; disk brakes front and rear; anti-lock brakes; > torque > peak at low rpm; telescopic steering wheel; wipers are variable and speed > sensitive; nicer styling (personal opinion); > > > TOYOTA MATRIX > ============== > PROS: better fuel economy; higher HP; cargo area has flat floor; better > reliability history; 16V engine; more usable cargo space; > > Opinions, please! > > > |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
"Built_Well" > wrote in message .. . > > Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of > roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership. > Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai, > even Kia--but not Volkswagon. > > Automakers use several criteria to decide where to put dealerships. There are only 6 VW dealerships in the state of Missouri. One of the main criteria is market size. For example assuming that Columbia, MO and the neighboring radius that people would travel to purchase a car has a population of 300,000. We'll use conservative numbers for this example and say that 40% of the population is of a car-buying age, so 300,000 X 40% = 120,000. Let's say 40% of the population of people who are of car-buying age purchase new vehicles instead of used vehicles: 120,000 X 40% = 48,000. Now, let's say that the new car buying population buys a car every 4 years: 48,000 divided by 4 = 12,000 In our example, out of a total population of 300,000, we came up with 12,000 potential new car buyers every year (actual numbers are probably even lower). VW's market share in the U.S. is roughly 2.5%, and assuming that market share applies in every market (it does not), then 15,000 X 2.5% = 300 annual sales, or 25 per month. VW probably wants single-line dealerships, and 25 new vehicles per month is probably not enough for a dealer to invest close to $5 million and get a decent return on his investment. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
Ray O wrote:
> "Built_Well" > wrote in message > .. . >> Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of >> roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership. >> Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai, >> even Kia--but not Volkswagon. >> >> > > Automakers use several criteria to decide where to put dealerships. There > are only 6 VW dealerships in the state of Missouri. > > One of the main criteria is market size. For example assuming that > Columbia, MO and the neighboring radius that people would travel to purchase > a car has a population of 300,000. > > We'll use conservative numbers for this example and say that 40% of the > population is of a car-buying age, so 300,000 X 40% = 120,000. > > Let's say 40% of the population of people who are of car-buying age purchase > new vehicles instead of used vehicles: 120,000 X 40% = 48,000. > > Now, let's say that the new car buying population buys a car every 4 years: > 48,000 divided by 4 = 12,000 > > In our example, out of a total population of 300,000, we came up with 12,000 > potential new car buyers every year (actual numbers are probably even > lower). > > VW's market share in the U.S. is roughly 2.5%, and assuming that market > share applies in every market (it does not), then 15,000 X 2.5% = 300 annual > sales, or 25 per month. > > VW probably wants single-line dealerships, and 25 new vehicles per month is > probably not enough for a dealer to invest close to $5 million and get a > decent return on his investment. ===== Thanks for that expert analysis, as usual, Ray O. :-) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
"Built_Well" > wrote in message .. . > Ray O wrote: >> "Built_Well" > wrote in message >> .. . >>> Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of >>> roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership. >>> Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai, >>> even Kia--but not Volkswagon. >>> >>> >> >> Automakers use several criteria to decide where to put dealerships. >> There are only 6 VW dealerships in the state of Missouri. >> >> One of the main criteria is market size. For example assuming that >> Columbia, MO and the neighboring radius that people would travel to >> purchase a car has a population of 300,000. >> >> We'll use conservative numbers for this example and say that 40% of the >> population is of a car-buying age, so 300,000 X 40% = 120,000. >> >> Let's say 40% of the population of people who are of car-buying age >> purchase new vehicles instead of used vehicles: 120,000 X 40% = 48,000. >> >> Now, let's say that the new car buying population buys a car every 4 >> years: 48,000 divided by 4 = 12,000 >> >> In our example, out of a total population of 300,000, we came up with >> 12,000 potential new car buyers every year (actual numbers are probably >> even lower). >> >> VW's market share in the U.S. is roughly 2.5%, and assuming that market >> share applies in every market (it does not), then 15,000 X 2.5% = 300 >> annual sales, or 25 per month. >> >> VW probably wants single-line dealerships, and 25 new vehicles per month >> is probably not enough for a dealer to invest close to $5 million and get >> a decent return on his investment. > ===== > > > Thanks for that expert analysis, as usual, Ray O. :-) > You're welcome! The process for determining where to put a dealership is a little more refined, but that is the general idea. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
Ray O wrote:
> "Built_Well" > wrote in message > .. . >> Ray O wrote: >>> "Built_Well" > wrote in message >>> .. . >>>> Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of >>>> roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership. >>>> Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai, >>>> even Kia--but not Volkswagon. >>>> >>>> >>> Automakers use several criteria to decide where to put dealerships. >>> There are only 6 VW dealerships in the state of Missouri. >>> >>> One of the main criteria is market size. For example assuming that >>> Columbia, MO and the neighboring radius that people would travel to >>> purchase a car has a population of 300,000. >>> >>> We'll use conservative numbers for this example and say that 40% of the >>> population is of a car-buying age, so 300,000 X 40% = 120,000. >>> >>> Let's say 40% of the population of people who are of car-buying age >>> purchase new vehicles instead of used vehicles: 120,000 X 40% = 48,000. >>> >>> Now, let's say that the new car buying population buys a car every 4 >>> years: 48,000 divided by 4 = 12,000 >>> >>> In our example, out of a total population of 300,000, we came up with >>> 12,000 potential new car buyers every year (actual numbers are probably >>> even lower). >>> >>> VW's market share in the U.S. is roughly 2.5%, and assuming that market >>> share applies in every market (it does not), then 15,000 X 2.5% = 300 >>> annual sales, or 25 per month. >>> >>> VW probably wants single-line dealerships, and 25 new vehicles per month >>> is probably not enough for a dealer to invest close to $5 million and get >>> a decent return on his investment. >> ===== >> >> >> Thanks for that expert analysis, as usual, Ray O. :-) >> > > You're welcome! > > The process for determining where to put a dealership is a little more > refined, but that is the general idea. ===== I'm just glad Toyota has a dealership here in Columbia! That's all I really need. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
Ray O wrote:
> VW probably wants single-line dealerships, most of the VW dealers i know about sell another line of cars, usually audi. |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
"mike" > wrote in message ... > Ray O wrote: >> VW probably wants single-line dealerships, > > most of the VW dealers i know about sell another line of cars, usually > audi. Multi-line dealerships are more common in smaller markets in order to get a large enough sales volume to make the dealership profitable. In larger markets, single-line dealerships are more common than multi-line. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
Built_Well wrote:
> > Would you believe in Columbia, Missouri, a good-sized city of > roughly 100,000 people, there is not a single VW dealership. > Everybody's here--Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi, Caddy, Hyundai, > even Kia--but not Volkswagon. Not terribly surprising. In all of Nassau and Suffolk counties (NY), an area of some 3 million people, there are only 7 VW dealerships that I know of. That's an average of one for every 400,000 people, or so. -- Mike Smith |
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VW City Golf or Toyota Matrix?
Ray O wrote: > mike wrote > >> Ray O wrote: >>> VW probably wants single-line dealerships, >> most of the VW dealers i know about sell another line of cars, usually >> audi. > > Multi-line dealerships are more common in smaller markets in order to get > a large enough sales volume to make the dealership profitable. In larger > markets, single-line dealerships are more common than multi-line. ===== I have to agree with Ray O. In my small market of Columbia, the local Toyota dealership (Machens) sells new Toyotas and BMWs on the same lot. They're called "Machens Toyota/BMW." Down the road just a little is their Ford dealership called Machens Ford. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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