Driving With Two Brakes - Part Two

Our car needed one wheel cylinder for a safety certification when we
bought it. The almost new shoes on that one side were soaked with brake
fluid.

The mechanic cleaned these up after the fix and re0installed them. It
then passed safety and has driven and braked perfectly since.

Brake fluid isn't like an oil or water soaking, those can damage the
liner, brake fluid doesn't seem to.

Oh, this post was very hard to reply to because there are some bogus
groups in the massive crosspost you started.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Neil wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for the excellent advice that's been given regarding our
> situation. We're definitely going to get the car fixed or else just park it.
> But now there's a slight situation.
>
> I talked to the shop that gave the quote, and it was $130, not $110, which
> is fine. Only thing is, I asked him what would be replaced. He said the
> wheel cylinders. I asked about the brake shoes, and he said that they just
> have a little brake fluid on them, so he would just clean them off. I asked,
> "What if they're soaked in brake fluid?" And he said that he would still
> just clean them off. As long as they're not falling apart, he said, they
> should be fine.
>
> Does that sound right to you? Leave the brake shoes and just clean them off?
>
> I took the car in this morning to another place to get a second opinion. He
> was going to give me a free brake inspection for the rear brakes. But then,
> when he got to it, he said that the rear drum had bearings, and he would
> have to repack the bearings, which would be a half hour of labor, and would
> have to charge me for that. So he didn't take the drum off. But, he said
> that he saw brake fluid leaking out of the drum which, he said, indicated
> that brake fluid was definitely in the drum, and, therefore, on the shoes.
> (Since that was all I needed to know, I didn't need for him to take the drum
> off.)
>
> So, if there's so much brake fluid in the drum that it's leaking out the
> other side, there must be a fair amount of fluid on the shoes. Would just
> cleaning the shoes be enough?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

It is more important to be able to stop, and stop safely, than it is to
keep on going.Usually so, anyway.
cuhulin

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Our car needed one wheel cylinder for a safety certification when we
> bought it. The almost new shoes on that one side were soaked with brake
> fluid.
>
> The mechanic cleaned these up after the fix and re0installed them. It
> then passed safety and has driven and braked perfectly since.
>
> Brake fluid isn't like an oil or water soaking, those can damage the
> liner, brake fluid doesn't seem to.

It also evaporates. Get the shoes hot and it's gone. But if they soak in
it long enough (like months) the binders in the pads can start to
disintegrate.
If this were a big truck where the shoes cost hundreds of dollars and
there condition was otherwise like new, then cleaning would make sense.
But if the shoes are cheap and you are going to remove the shoes anyway
for a good cleaning of the shoes and hardware, then it doesn't really make
sense.

-jim


>
> Oh, this post was very hard to reply to because there are some bogus
> groups in the massive crosspost you started.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
> Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>
> Neil wrote:
> > Thanks to everyone for the excellent advice that's been given regarding our
> > situation. We're definitely going to get the car fixed or else just park it.
> > But now there's a slight situation.
> >
> > I talked to the shop that gave the quote, and it was $130, not $110, which
> > is fine. Only thing is, I asked him what would be replaced. He said the
> > wheel cylinders. I asked about the brake shoes, and he said that they just
> > have a little brake fluid on them, so he would just clean them off. I asked,
> > "What if they're soaked in brake fluid?" And he said that he would still
> > just clean them off. As long as they're not falling apart, he said, they
> > should be fine.
> >
> > Does that sound right to you? Leave the brake shoes and just clean them off?
> >
> > I took the car in this morning to another place to get a second opinion. He
> > was going to give me a free brake inspection for the rear brakes. But then,
> > when he got to it, he said that the rear drum had bearings, and he would
> > have to repack the bearings, which would be a half hour of labor, and would
> > have to charge me for that. So he didn't take the drum off. But, he said
> > that he saw brake fluid leaking out of the drum which, he said, indicated
> > that brake fluid was definitely in the drum, and, therefore, on the shoes.
> > (Since that was all I needed to know, I didn't need for him to take the drum
> > off.)
> >
> > So, if there's so much brake fluid in the drum that it's leaking out the
> > other side, there must be a fair amount of fluid on the shoes. Would just
> > cleaning the shoes be enough?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >


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Those Top Gear people went to Africa, their challenge was to drive
across a desert.Jeremy Clarkson bought an old clapped out Lancia car,
one of the other guys bought an old clapped out Opel Rekord car, the
other guy bought an old clapped out Mercedes Benz car.The Opel car only
had one brake that worked, on one of the front wheels, he said that
brake works very well though.When they made it to the finish line,
Jeremy Clarkson (driving the Lancia car) said, Watch out! no brakes!
cuhulin

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
ng.com...
> Our car needed one wheel cylinder for a safety certification when we
> bought it. The almost new shoes on that one side were soaked with brake
> fluid.
>
> The mechanic cleaned these up after the fix and re0installed them. It
> then passed safety and has driven and braked perfectly since.
>
> Brake fluid isn't like an oil or water soaking, those can damage the
> liner, brake fluid doesn't seem to.
>
> Oh, this post was very hard to reply to because there are some bogus
> groups in the massive crosspost you started.

Thanks for the info. Maybe it'll be alright with just the cleanup.

BTW, none of the groups are bogus. I'm able to read replies in all of them.
Perhaps your ISP just doesn't list them.

> It also evaporates. Get the shoes hot and it's gone. But if they soak in
> it long enough (like months) the binders in the pads can start to
> disintegrate.

I guess that would agree with what the mechanic said, that they would clean
them up, "unless they're falling apart."

> If this were a big truck where the shoes cost hundreds of dollars and
> there condition was otherwise like new, then cleaning would make sense.
> But if the shoes are cheap and you are going to remove the shoes anyway
> for a good cleaning of the shoes and hardware, then it doesn't really make
> sense.

I would agree with that, especially when you consider the cost of the
cleaner used to clean the brake shoes. I'm going to find out how much they
would charge to put new shoes in. One would think they wouldn't charge for
labor. But you never know.

In article >, Neil wrote:
>
>"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
ing.com...
>> Our car needed one wheel cylinder for a safety certification when we
>> bought it. The almost new shoes on that one side were soaked with brake
>> fluid.
>>
>> The mechanic cleaned these up after the fix and re0installed them. It
>> then passed safety and has driven and braked perfectly since.
>>
>> Brake fluid isn't like an oil or water soaking, those can damage the
>> liner, brake fluid doesn't seem to.
>>
>> Oh, this post was very hard to reply to because there are some bogus
>> groups in the massive crosspost you started.
>
>Thanks for the info. Maybe it'll be alright with just the cleanup.
>
>BTW, none of the groups are bogus. I'm able to read replies in all of them.
>Perhaps your ISP just doesn't list them.

'judy' the troll replied in these threads I think... it adds all sorts
of groups.

>>BTW, none of the groups are bogus. I'm able to read replies in all of
>>them.
>>Perhaps your ISP just doesn't list them.
>
> 'judy' the troll replied in these threads I think... it adds all sorts
> of groups.

Really? I don't see anything from a "judy." What newsgroup was that in?

Neil wrote:
>>>BTW, none of the groups are bogus. I'm able to read replies in all of
>>>them.
>>>Perhaps your ISP just doesn't list them.
>>
>>'judy' the troll replied in these threads I think... it adds all sorts
>>of groups.
>
>
> Really? I don't see anything from a "judy." What newsgroup was that in?
>

Aunt Judy AKA "Speeders And Drunk Drivers Are Murderers" commonly known
as SADDAM - just ignore it, not worth your time.

nate

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