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'81 VW Rabbit Steering Rack Problem
Facts: 1981 rabbit, 1.7L, FI, 4sp, w/a/c, manual steering.
Westmoreland PA built. Tie rods OK. For the past 5000 miles or so it appeared that when rounding a curve at 30-40 mph in a right hand turn that the steering would "stick" or "bind" at a point and then come back, almost as if the steering was hung up and then loosen. This symptom would occur both during the turning of the steering wheel past the binding point, and on the return as one exited the curve and the vehicle started to head straight down the road. The steering also has the classic clunk when turning the steering wheel at low speeds, i.e. backing up and turning while backing. I seriously tried to adjust the steering adjustment as per Bentley, but could not get a wrench on the locknut. I do not have the special wrench to curve over the gearbox. I have always had the "feeling" or "impression" that my '81 rabbit steering wheel was harder to turn at very low speeds (and while sitting still) than my '82, and '83 rabbits, but this could be my imagination. With both wheels raised off the ground it turns extremely freely and one cannot detect a "bind" or "sticking point". Also over time the steering wheel is no longer centered, with the wheel being approx. 5-7 degrees off dead center. Yesterday while the vehicle was being driven the following occurred: when turning the steering wheel, there was a severe bind and the front wheels did not turn, until the operator applied greater than normal force to the steering wheel. Now the steering wheel is about 50 degrees off of center. As it was explained to my by the driver, the steering wheel locked up and would only move by giving it a hard yank. After getting one front wheel off the ground and turning the tire to simulate turning, one could feel it lockup (or bind) at a point and then with a little additional force, seem to break free. Oddly enough the tires seem to move in unison, (in other words the tires are not pointing in different directions). I believe that the steering rack has slipped a couple (or more) teeth over the pinion gear allowing the tires to turn in unison, but the steering wheel is not in the normal straight up position even though the front wheels may be pointed straight ahead. I did not crawl under the vehicle last night, so it is possible that a U-clamp failed. I merely assumed that it did not, as approximately one month ago I was trying to make the adjustment on the gearbox as per Bentley's instructions, and could not get a wrench on it. I read somewhere that one could leave the box attached to the universal joint on the intermediate shaft, and remove the bolts holding the gearbox to the firewall and this would allow enough clearance to make the adjustment to the gearbox. My query is whether this will remedy the problem, or at least if there is someone out there who has had a similar problem and found this to be a fix, or is it replacement of steering rack time. My question is: Does this mean that it is time to get a new rack, or can the screw-and-locknut adjustment still be made to the gearbox to avoid buying a new rack. Also is there a quick (and dirty) way to do this without having the special wrench. |
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'81 VW Rabbit Steering Rack Problem
On 18 May 2007 11:32:44 -0700, jfruniontown >
wrote: > Facts: 1981 rabbit, 1.7L, FI, 4sp, w/a/c, manual steering. >Westmoreland PA built. Tie rods OK. > > For the past 5000 miles or so it appeared that when rounding a curve >at 30-40 mph in a right hand turn that the steering would "stick" or >"bind" at a point and then come back, almost as if the steering was >hung up and then loosen. This symptom would occur both during the >turning of the steering wheel past the binding point, and on the >return as one exited the curve and the vehicle started to head >straight down the road. The steering also has the classic clunk when >turning the steering wheel at low speeds, i.e. backing up and turning >while backing. I seriously tried to adjust the steering adjustment as >per Bentley, but could not get a wrench on the locknut. I do not have >the special wrench to curve over the gearbox. I have always had the >"feeling" or "impression" that my '81 rabbit steering wheel was harder >to turn at very low speeds (and while sitting still) than my '82, and >'83 rabbits, but this could be my imagination. With both wheels >raised off the ground it turns extremely freely and one cannot detect >a "bind" or "sticking point". > > Also over time the steering wheel is no longer centered, with the >wheel being approx. 5-7 degrees off dead center. Yesterday while the >vehicle was being driven the following occurred: when turning the >steering wheel, there was a severe bind and the front wheels did not >turn, until the operator applied greater than normal force to the >steering wheel. Now the steering wheel is about 50 degrees off of >center. As it was explained to my by the driver, the steering wheel >locked up and would only move by giving it a hard yank. After getting >one front wheel off the ground and turning the tire to simulate >turning, one could feel it lockup (or bind) at a point and then with a >little additional force, seem to break free. Oddly enough the tires >seem to move in unison, (in other words the tires are not pointing in >different directions). I believe that the steering rack has slipped a >couple (or more) teeth over the pinion gear allowing the tires to turn >in unison, but the steering wheel is not in the normal straight up >position even though the front wheels may be pointed straight ahead. > >I did not crawl under the vehicle last night, so it is possible that a >U-clamp failed. I merely assumed that it did not, as approximately one >month ago I was trying to make the adjustment on the gearbox as per >Bentley's instructions, and could not get a wrench on it. > > I read somewhere that one could leave the box attached to the >universal joint on the intermediate shaft, and remove the bolts >holding the gearbox to the firewall and this would allow enough >clearance to make the adjustment to the gearbox. > > My query is whether this will remedy the problem, or at least if >there is someone out there who has had a similar problem and found >this to be a fix, or is it replacement of steering rack time. > > >My question is: Does this mean that it is time to get a new rack, or >can the screw-and-locknut adjustment still be made to the gearbox to >avoid buying a new rack. Also is there a quick (and dirty) way to do >this without having the special wrench. The cure is a new or rebuilt rack. If it has gotten that messed up I would not trust my life to a jammed up rack. That is just stupid. Park the car until you can replace the rack. Part two of the repair should be to inspect the ball joints and the tie rods. On my 84 the sleeve bearing was worn so there was slop and clunking. New tie rods and a rebuilt rack and all was quiet and safe. |
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'81 VW Rabbit Steering Rack Problem
I made the screw-and-locknut adjustment over the weekend. The steering
wheel is now centered when the front wheels are straight ahead, however this was done only by jumping teeth on the rack while it was extremely loose. The locknut is a 17mm and can be undone with a short 17mm boxed end wrench. The adjustment screw (bolt)is a 7mm. After the adjustment the rack no longer jumps a tooth and it does not bind, but only if one does not turn the front wheels beyond approximately 15-17 degrees. If one goes beyond that it once again binds and becomes extremely noisy, but does not jump teeth. I am now convinced that there is a bad bushing or a broken tooth on the rack. I am in the process of replacing the rack with a long rack from autozone ($133.00 for a rebuilt atsco - cheaper in the long run than a $114.00 short rack from advance)-- more parts for the money). Will post again when the new rack & pinion is installed. |
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'81 VW Rabbit Steering Rack Problem
On 22 May 2007 19:38:24 -0700, jfruniontown >
wrote: >I made the screw-and-locknut adjustment over the weekend. The steering >wheel is now centered when the front wheels are straight ahead, >however this was done only by jumping teeth on the rack while it was >extremely loose. The locknut is a 17mm and can be undone with a short >17mm boxed end wrench. The adjustment screw (bolt)is a 7mm. After the >adjustment the rack no longer jumps a tooth and it does not bind, but >only if one does not turn the front wheels beyond approximately 15-17 >degrees. If one goes beyond that it once again binds and becomes >extremely noisy, but does not jump teeth. I am now convinced that >there is a bad bushing or a broken tooth on the rack. I am in the >process of replacing the rack with a long rack from autozone ($133.00 >for a rebuilt atsco - cheaper in the long run than a $114.00 short >rack from advance)-- more parts for the money). Will post again when >the new rack & pinion is installed. Good to hear you are fixing it properly. I got a cheap rebuilt one for my GTI and it worked fine. My rack just had worn out bushings that made clunks. That broken tooth stuff sounds scary. |
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