Let's see if I have this right (Wrangler Questions)

Hi,

Name's Andrew and I own a '97 TJ Sahara I bought new.
Rates are mighty low and I've been looking into a new one.
As near as I can tell choices are little more complicated
this time around. It seems the current Wrangler choices a
1. Sport
2. Sport S
3. Sahara
4. Sahara Anniversary
5. Mohave
6. Rubicon
7. Rubicon COD Spec. Ed.
8. Some of the above Unlimited, some not, some both.

Can anyone tell me true or false on the following -

Only Sport and Sport S can have roll-up windows ?
(All others are power lock,windows ONLY.)

Sahara & Mohave & Rubicon are Dual-top ONLY -
can't get soft-top only?

I got my beloved Sahara with hand-crank windows, no
power locks and soft-top only. The inside-mounted
rear-view fell off a couple years ago and I could
care less. I spent a mint fixing the power windows for
my wifey's Volvo and have ZERO desire for such Dealer
Money-Makers myself. Never had Sirius and don't want it.
If I wanted a Land Rover I'd buy one, I like my Jeep TJ.
I would wish for a Mohave or Rubicon, 2-Door, Soft-top,
hand-cranked and put my money under the hood where it
belongs.

I have no where to store the Hard top, no carport or such
to mount an assist device, and no one to help lug it on/off.
Seems like the closest I can get to my old Sahara is a
Sport S plus some options. Is that true?

rock_bustin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Name's Andrew and I own a '97 TJ Sahara I bought new.
> Rates are mighty low and I've been looking into a new one.
> As near as I can tell choices are little more complicated
> this time around. It seems the current Wrangler choices a
....

They can have all that stuff and the oversize Wrangler they have now.
I'm keeping my '97 TJ and no one can have it!

What's so bad about the one you have now that you want a new one?
You can't buy another TJ new in the USA...

On Sep 18, 12:25*pm, Scott in Baltimore >
wrote:
> rock_bustin wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > Name's Andrew and I own a '97 TJ Sahara I bought new.
> > Rates are mighty low and I've been looking into a new one.
> > As near as I can tell choices are little more complicated
> > this time around. It seems the current Wrangler choices a
>
> ...
>
> They can have all that stuff and the oversize Wrangler they have now.
> I'm keeping my '97 TJ and no one can have it!
>
> What's so bad about the one you have now that you want a new one?
> You can't buy another TJ new in the USA...

It's very beat up - been in a few accidents when I couldn't afford the
co-pay.
Too late except for collision claim front end and l. front fender.
Many cosmetic
damages, rust starting on the hood and r. rear. Engine's seen better
days.
AC is out.You might have all that fixed in a jif but not me. Time to
move on, man.

-Andrew

I wrote:

>> What's so bad about the one you have now that you want a new one?
>> You can't buy another TJ new in the USA...

rock_bustin replied:

> It's very beat up - been in a few accidents when I couldn't afford the
> co-pay.
> Too late except for collision claim front end and l. front fender.
> Many cosmetic
> damages, rust starting on the hood and r. rear. Engine's seen better
> days.
> AC is out.You might have all that fixed in a jif but not me. Time to
> move on, man.

I lot can happen in 16 years. I've only managed 93K miles and last year
I scored a Dana 44 LSD rear when my D35 bit the dust again. I need to get
the xfer case rebuilt and my mechanic quoted my about $1500 to do it. I'd
like to get it done before winter. That one storm was wicked and I couldn't
use 4WL because it sounded like the chain was dragging in one spot, so I
turned around and went another way. It worked out well because when I came
around the other way, the way I would have come was backed up as far as I
could see! Most of my miles were done on a long gone Chevy and my beat up
old delivery car I bought to absorb miles back and forth after the Chevy died.


? for the groups:

Is $1500 too much for a transfer case rebuild?

Scott in Baltimore wrote:

> Is $1500 too much for a transfer case rebuild?

Yes. Especially if all it needs is basic parts and a new chain.

Known a few folks that went with this company.
http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...arts/jeep.html

Cases aren't near as difficult as transmissions, and 1500 is
even too much for a transmission rebuild.

--
DougW

DougW wrote:
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>
>> Is $1500 too much for a transfer case rebuild?
>
> Yes. Especially if all it needs is basic parts and a new chain.
>
> Known a few folks that went with this company.
> http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...arts/jeep.html
>
> Cases aren't near as difficult as transmissions, and 1500 is
> even too much for a transmission rebuild.
>

They list mine at $1,133.75. Then I need to pay labor to R&R.
I can't do it myself anymore.

On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:16:53 -0700 (PDT), rock_bustin
> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Name's Andrew and I own a '97 TJ Sahara I bought new.
>Rates are mighty low and I've been looking into a new one.
>As near as I can tell choices are little more complicated
>this time around. It seems the current Wrangler choices a
>1. Sport
>2. Sport S
>3. Sahara
>4. Sahara Anniversary
>5. Mohave
>6. Rubicon
>7. Rubicon COD Spec. Ed.
>8. Some of the above Unlimited, some not, some both.
>
>Can anyone tell me true or false on the following -
>
>Only Sport and Sport S can have roll-up windows ?
>(All others are power lock,windows ONLY.)
>
>Sahara & Mohave & Rubicon are Dual-top ONLY -
>can't get soft-top only?
>
>I got my beloved Sahara with hand-crank windows, no
>power locks and soft-top only. The inside-mounted
>rear-view fell off a couple years ago and I could
>care less. I spent a mint fixing the power windows for
>my wifey's Volvo and have ZERO desire for such Dealer
>Money-Makers myself. Never had Sirius and don't want it.
>If I wanted a Land Rover I'd buy one, I like my Jeep TJ.
>I would wish for a Mohave or Rubicon, 2-Door, Soft-top,
>hand-cranked and put my money under the hood where it
>belongs.
>
>I have no where to store the Hard top, no carport or such
>to mount an assist device, and no one to help lug it on/off.
>Seems like the closest I can get to my old Sahara is a
>Sport S plus some options. Is that true?


With all respect Guys,

I really don't want you hijacking my thread.
It's not about Dana rear ends it's about the questions I asked.
I'm not being rude but I'd like respondents to focus on what I
asked, not my reasons for asking or the other problems of long
term jeep ownership.

TIA,

Andrew

On 9/18/2011 9:16 AM, rock_bustin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Name's Andrew and I own a '97 TJ Sahara I bought new.
> Rates are mighty low and I've been looking into a new one.
> As near as I can tell choices are little more complicated
> this time around. It seems the current Wrangler choices a
> 1. Sport
> 2. Sport S
> 3. Sahara
> 4. Sahara Anniversary
> 5. Mohave
> 6. Rubicon
> 7. Rubicon COD Spec. Ed.
> 8. Some of the above Unlimited, some not, some both.
>
> Can anyone tell me true or false on the following -
>
> Only Sport and Sport S can have roll-up windows ?
> (All others are power lock,windows ONLY.)
>
> Sahara& Mohave& Rubicon are Dual-top ONLY -
> can't get soft-top only?
>
> I got my beloved Sahara with hand-crank windows, no
> power locks and soft-top only. The inside-mounted
> rear-view fell off a couple years ago and I could
> care less. I spent a mint fixing the power windows for
> my wifey's Volvo and have ZERO desire for such Dealer
> Money-Makers myself. Never had Sirius and don't want it.
> If I wanted a Land Rover I'd buy one, I like my Jeep TJ.
> I would wish for a Mohave or Rubicon, 2-Door, Soft-top,
> hand-cranked and put my money under the hood where it
> belongs.
>
> I have no where to store the Hard top, no carport or such
> to mount an assist device, and no one to help lug it on/off.
> Seems like the closest I can get to my old Sahara is a
> Sport S plus some options. Is that true?

What kills me is that it is only $4,000 from a Sport S
Unlimited to a Rubicon Unlimited after I add locking
rear axle, max tow group, etc.
http://www.edmunds.com/jeep/wrangler/2012/?sub=suv

The only thing that I do not like is that I get 4.10
axles with the Rubicon and 3.73 axles with the Sport S.
I prefer the 3.73 axle.

Lynn

It's a group discussion. If you don't like it, don't post. If you want
precise answers to your question, ask one of the Chrysler corp. sales reps.

> With all respect Guys,
>
> I really don't want you hijacking my thread.
> It's not about Dana rear ends it's about the questions I asked.
> I'm not being rude but I'd like respondents to focus on what I
> asked, not my reasons for asking or the other problems of long
> term jeep ownership.
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew

On 9/19/2011 2:20 PM, rock_bustin wrote:
> On Sep 19, 11:45 am, > wrote:
>> It's a group discussion. If you don't like it, don't post. If you want
>> precise answers to your question, ask one of the Chrysler corp. sales reps.
>>
>
> Heard that before, Roy.
> If it's an open group then there's nothing wrong with asking what I
> did - is there?

Original post? NO problem. A followup by someone (Andrew?) saying keep
on topic is off by a bit, IMHO. If Andrew doesn't like it, he can leave.
Your comment and question are OK, so far.

> Nor do I need your useless, unasked for, already understood "comment."

Well, that's going to get you a lot of good comments. If you don't like
what someone says, just ignore them.

> How about you answer the questions or find something useful to do.
> I've had a lot of helpful advice here over some years previous and
> nobody needed
> your advice then or now, Roy. I'll leave the withering reply to you.
> <yawn>
>
> .My focus is on certain specific questions addressed to this ng.
> Scott, et al didn't
> ask my permission to reply as they did and didn't need you to defend
> them either.
> Go troll elsewhere.

So this defines everyone else as trolls?

--
I'm never going to grow up.