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Why is Slick 50 still in business?
They've been sued by DuPont, had their asses slapped by the FTC for their
snake-oil claims, been outed for marketing a product that has no genuine benefits and can actually damage an engine, so how do they manage to stay in business, still making essentially the same claims? |
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Doc wrote: > They've been sued by DuPont, had their asses slapped by the FTC for their > snake-oil claims, been outed for marketing a product that has no genuine > benefits and can actually damage an engine, so how do they manage to stay in > business, still making essentially the same claims? Don't know much about Slick 50, but it sure sounds like it could be slick. I've worked on cars long enough to know there is money to be made from peddling cans of goop to: make engine engine oil slippery, enhance transmission fluid, condition power steering fluid, stabilize gasoline, clean fuel injectors, improve fuel economy, improve engine performance, and plug a leaky cooling system. In my experience most of the products do no harm, and that's a good thing. |
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The FTC hammered them because they made claims which they had not tested
adequately and for which they had no proof, if I remember correctly. The FTC didnt come out and say the product was trash, just that the marketing was deceptive and misleading. http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/legal/s50fcn.html As far as I know, DuPont never sued Blue Coral Slick 50. I spoke with DuPont in those years about an alternate use of micronized PTFE which they were glad to investigate, and during the conversation they told me that they were not happy with some of the claims Slick 50 had made. (Prophetic, no?) My application for micronized PTFE was better served by another chemistry and was not taken further. |
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What about Anal Care Kits?
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Marco Licetti wrote: > What about Anal Care Kits? ????????????????? |
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They're still in business because nobody *ever* lost money marketing to ignorant idiots and gullible fools. Since there are so many of both, it's a large market. Since logic and science haven't been effectively taught in the US for several decades now, it's also a growth market. |
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"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message .umich.edu... > > They're still in business because nobody *ever* lost money marketing to > ignorant idiots and gullible fools. Since there are so many of both, it's > a large market. Since logic and science haven't been effectively taught in > the US for several decades now, it's also a growth market. Did not Quaker State buy the rights to market Slick 50? A change of ownership seems to have 'purified' the product. |
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"Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> > They're still in business because nobody *ever* lost money marketing to > ignorant idiots and gullible fools. Since there are so many of both, it's > a large market. Since logic and science haven't been effectively taught in > the US for several decades now, it's also a growth market. Two absolutely true educational horrors from a friend of mine who is a technology teacher currently at a "magnet" school for talented / gifted students. Horror #1: One student had absolutely no idea how to use a ruler. This was a teenager too, not a 5yr old. Horror #2: A group of students in an intro robotics class was given a socket wrench set to use in the assembly of components. Not a single student in the group knew how to use a socket wrench. With "talented and gifted" students like that the future of this country is very bleak... Pete C. |
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Pete C. wrote: > "Daniel J. Stern" wrote: > > > > They're still in business because nobody *ever* lost money marketing to > > ignorant idiots and gullible fools. Since there are so many of both, it's > > a large market. Since logic and science haven't been effectively taught in > > the US for several decades now, it's also a growth market. > > Two absolutely true educational horrors from a friend of mine who is a > technology teacher currently at a "magnet" school for talented / gifted > students. > > Horror #1: One student had absolutely no idea how to use a ruler. This > was a teenager too, not a 5yr old. That is apalling - his parents should have taught that basic household skill. > > Horror #2: A group of students in an intro robotics class was given a > socket wrench set to use in the assembly of components. Not a single > student in the group knew how to use a socket wrench. Not surprising given the way that shop and other trade related courses are taught in classrooms away from the main high school campus for potential dropouts and other problem students. Most kids are actively discouraged from shop classes when many of those skills would be very useful in daily life. Not to mention a career. Much as I hate to start a discussion like this, when I was in high school, boys were encouraged to take some shop classes even if they were college bound. I'm proud to say I took at least one semester of every shop class and went a lot further in auto and machine shop. It meant some summer school, but it was worth it imho. > > With "talented and gifted" students like that the future of this country > is very bleak... Someone is gonna pick up those jobs, but I really dislike the condescending attitude of many teachers and school administrators towards trade related schooling. A good automotive tech is highly skilled and trained person these days. > > Pete C. |
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"John S." wrote:
> > Pete C. wrote: > > "Daniel J. Stern" wrote: > > > > > > They're still in business because nobody *ever* lost money marketing to > > > ignorant idiots and gullible fools. Since there are so many of both, it's > > > a large market. Since logic and science haven't been effectively taught in > > > the US for several decades now, it's also a growth market. > > > > Two absolutely true educational horrors from a friend of mine who is a > > technology teacher currently at a "magnet" school for talented / gifted > > students. > > > > Horror #1: One student had absolutely no idea how to use a ruler. This > > was a teenager too, not a 5yr old. > > That is apalling - his parents should have taught that basic household > skill. I thought you learned how to use a ruler in the 1st grade at the latest. > > > > > Horror #2: A group of students in an intro robotics class was given a > > socket wrench set to use in the assembly of components. Not a single > > student in the group knew how to use a socket wrench. > > Not surprising given the way that shop and other trade related courses > are taught in classrooms away from the main high school campus for > potential dropouts and other problem students. Most kids are actively > discouraged from shop classes when many of those skills would be very > useful in daily life. Not to mention a career. Absolutely inexcusable the way schools try to steer kids away from skills / careers that are not "in". Many kids would would otherwise have a very rewarding career end up pushed towards something they don't like, aren't good at and may ultimately fail at. As for socket wrenches, not only is it the loss of shop class in the schools, it's also the lack of those skills in their parents. It used to be that your dad would change the oil on the family cars and do other basic maintenance and you'd pick up some of the mechanical skills that way. Now most of the parents don't even know how to check the oil in their car, much less change it. > > Much as I hate to start a discussion like this, when I was in high > school, boys were encouraged to take some shop classes even if they > were college bound. I'm proud to say I took at least one semester of > every shop class and went a lot further in auto and machine shop. It > meant some summer school, but it was worth it imho. I'm probably a bit younger, but not that much as shop class did still exist when I was in school. Unfortunately I never really had the opportunity to take shop class as I was fairly talented in other areas and was somewhat steered in that direction. Fortunately though I was never one to yield to any kind of pressure (peer, parent, teacher, etc.) so that didn't stop my interest in things mechanical. My father although I didn't get along with him very well, worked at Colt Firearms doing machining / setup for machine operators so I was able to get some machining exposure that way. I've since built up a halfway decent shop myself and treat every project / repair opportunity as an excuse to add more tools. I've taken a few evening classes at local tech schools to add to / improve my skills in various areas and enjoyed them quite a bit. My feeling is that all students regardless of sex, need to take both a shop type class and a home-ec. type class as skills in both those areas seem to be desperately needed today. > > > > > With "talented and gifted" students like that the future of this country > > is very bleak... > > Someone is gonna pick up those jobs, but I really dislike the > condescending attitude of many teachers and school administrators > towards trade related schooling. A good automotive tech is highly > skilled and trained person these days. Absolutely and we seem to be importing people to do those jobs. A good automotive tech is indeed highly skilled and trained and they sure seem to be in short supply based on what I've seen in a number of car dealer and other commercial shops. Examples such as the tech who forgot to put the bolts back in the center bearing carrier on the drive shaft on my truck after clutch work, or the folks at two different tire places who didn't comprehend hub piloted wheels or torquing sequences and put wheels on my truck crooked. Pete C. |
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