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Ride an SUB not an SUV
Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem.
And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the little furry animals are here to stay. There are two versions of it... bike: http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 and bus: http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 or the whole REVOLUTION... http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution |
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Ride an SUB not an SUV
On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" >
wrote: > Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. > And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the > little furry animals are here to stay. > > There are two versions of it... > > bike: > > http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 > > and bus: > > http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 OK, how is the bus not polluting? > > or the whole REVOLUTION... > > http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution |
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Ride an SUB not an SUV
On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" >
wrote: > On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > > wrote: > > > Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. > > And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the > > little furry animals are here to stay. > > > There are two versions of it... > > > bike: > > >http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 > > > and bus: > > >http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 > > OK, how is the bus not polluting? You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new technologies and some political will to make it happen... Heaven Help Bus A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and it works. The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust pipe: a trickle of water. http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or some other technologies out there. We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... |
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donquijote1954 wrote:
> On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" > > wrote: >> On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > >> wrote: >> >>> Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. >>> And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the >>> little furry animals are here to stay. >>> There are two versions of it... >>> bike: >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 >>> and bus: >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 >> OK, how is the bus not polluting? > > You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new > technologies and some political will to make it happen... > > Heaven Help Bus > A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future > > The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and > it works. > > The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern > Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise > through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking > up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that > would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago > are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust > pipe: a trickle of water. > > http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ > > I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we > could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be > replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or > some other technologies out there. > > We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... > Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil to make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen. It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar, hydro, or, dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation). Bill Baka |
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"Bill Baka" > wrote in message t... > donquijote1954 wrote: > > On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" > > > wrote: > >> On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. > >>> And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the > >>> little furry animals are here to stay. > >>> There are two versions of it... > >>> bike: > >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 > >>> and bus: > >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 > >> OK, how is the bus not polluting? > > > > You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new > > technologies and some political will to make it happen... > > > > Heaven Help Bus > > A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future > > > > The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and > > it works. > > > > The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern > > Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise > > through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking > > up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that > > would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago > > are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust > > pipe: a trickle of water. > > > > http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ > > > > I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we > > could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be > > replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or > > some other technologies out there. > > > > We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... > > > Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil to > make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen. > It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar, hydro, > or, dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation). > Bill Baka Anything which makes a bus more efficient would make a car even more efficient than the bus. Right now transit buses waste fuel big time. |
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"Bill Baka" > wrote in message t... > donquijote1954 wrote: >> On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" > >> wrote: >>> On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. >>>> And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the >>>> little furry animals are here to stay. >>>> There are two versions of it... >>>> bike: >>>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 >>>> and bus: >>>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 >>> OK, how is the bus not polluting? >> >> You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new >> technologies and some political will to make it happen... >> >> Heaven Help Bus >> A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future >> >> The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and >> it works. >> >> The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern >> Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise >> through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking >> up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that >> would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago >> are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust >> pipe: a trickle of water. >> >> http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ >> >> I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we >> could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be >> replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or >> some other technologies out there. >> >> We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... >> > Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil to > make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen. > It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar, hydro, or, > dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation). > Bill Baka You will notice that there was no mention of the obvious. If you use the electricity without converting it to anything it's clean (Hydrogen is not as clean) then you do get what you want. Shoot, even the Feds recognise that at tax time. Like the Hybrids (which are actually dismall failures for a replacement, just a stop gap) you get tax credits if you buy an electric car. Check out Portland, Ore for being Electric Friendly. But until everyone gets their noses out of the Petro or Carbon fuel BS don't look for it to go much further. Electrics now have the same range as the "Hydrogens" and "Fuel Cells" and are a danged sight easier to maintain without going boom in the night. Yes, Gertrude, Hydrogen is very, very dangerous. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3877 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! |
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"George Conklin" > wrote in message nk.net... > > "Bill Baka" > wrote in message > t... >> donquijote1954 wrote: >> > On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" > >> > wrote: >> >> On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. >> >>> And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the >> >>> little furry animals are here to stay. >> >>> There are two versions of it... >> >>> bike: >> >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 >> >>> and bus: >> >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 >> >> OK, how is the bus not polluting? >> > >> > You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new >> > technologies and some political will to make it happen... >> > >> > Heaven Help Bus >> > A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future >> > >> > The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and >> > it works. >> > >> > The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern >> > Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise >> > through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking >> > up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that >> > would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago >> > are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust >> > pipe: a trickle of water. >> > >> > http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ >> > >> > I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we >> > could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be >> > replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or >> > some other technologies out there. >> > >> > We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... >> > >> Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil to >> make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen. >> It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar, hydro, >> or, dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation). >> Bill Baka > > Anything which makes a bus more efficient would make a car even more > efficient than the bus. Right now transit buses waste fuel big time. Not all, I think I read somewhere where a city went to Electrics. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3877 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! |
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"George Conklin" > wrote in message nk.net... > > "Bill Baka" > wrote in message > t... >> donquijote1954 wrote: >> > On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" > >> > wrote: >> >> On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. >> >>> And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the >> >>> little furry animals are here to stay. >> >>> There are two versions of it... >> >>> bike: >> >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 >> >>> and bus: >> >>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 >> >> OK, how is the bus not polluting? >> > >> > You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new >> > technologies and some political will to make it happen... >> > >> > Heaven Help Bus >> > A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future >> > >> > The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and >> > it works. >> > >> > The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern >> > Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise >> > through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking >> > up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that >> > would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago >> > are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust >> > pipe: a trickle of water. >> > >> > http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ >> > >> > I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we >> > could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be >> > replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or >> > some other technologies out there. >> > >> > We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... >> > >> Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil to >> make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen. >> It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar, hydro, >> or, dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation). >> Bill Baka > > Anything which makes a bus more efficient would make a car even more > efficient than the bus. Right now transit buses waste fuel big time. "Who killed the electric car" would be a good movie for this thread. I will never buy anything from GM. Wusses! |
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George Conklin wrote:
> "Bill Baka" > wrote in message > t... >> donquijote1954 wrote: >>> On Mar 4, 9:49 am, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" > >>> wrote: >>>> On Mar 3, 11:47 am, "donquijote1954" > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey, be smart. You are part of the solution, not part of the problem. >>>>> And you save the buck. Dinosaurs are a thing of the past and the >>>>> little furry animals are here to stay. >>>>> There are two versions of it... >>>>> bike: >>>>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235847689274986069 >>>>> and bus: >>>>> http://www.zazzle.com/product/235396990102826110 >>>> OK, how is the bus not polluting? >>> You don't see it everyday, but it's possible. Just some new >>> technologies and some political will to make it happen... >>> >>> Heaven Help Bus >>> A visit to Iceland spurs dreams of a hydrogen future >>> >>> The loneliness of the long-distance rider.I have seen the future, and >>> it works. >>> >>> The 111 bus rolls quietly up to the Mjodd terminal in eastern >>> Reykjavik at 11:19 a.m., and I climb aboard. For 45 minutes, we cruise >>> through the suburbs and then to the central square downtown, picking >>> up and discharging eight passengers along the way. Fuel cells that >>> would have filled the space of several passenger seats five years ago >>> are now small enough to fit in the roof panels. And out the exhaust >>> pipe: a trickle of water. >>> >>> http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbo...n-hydrogenbus/ >>> >>> I have a dream...that someday buses will not pollute. Actually we >>> could make it happen now much easier than having all the cars be >>> replaced with hybrid. Just change the fleet of buses to hydrogen or >>> some other technologies out there. >>> >>> We can make it happen with THE REVOLUTION. Coming soon... >>> >> Too optimistic. Somebody, somewhere is probably burning coal or oil to >> make the electricity to electrolyze the water to make the Hydrogen. >> It only really works if the electricity comes from wind, solar, hydro, >> or, dare I say it, NUculear (Bush pronunciation). >> Bill Baka > > Anything which makes a bus more efficient would make a car even more > efficient than the bus. Right now transit buses waste fuel big time. > > Only if nobody rides them. When I was a kid in the Chicago area I could go anywhere on a weekend with a travel buddy of mine. We took the train into downtown, then the 'el' ( hard to explain), and over/underground subway system. Then there were electric trolley buses, and finally regular buses to get us within walking distance. And, yes, any one of those modes of transportation sucks fuel big time if nobody rides them. If they are full they are a good thing. SUV's and single occupant soccer moms have messed up the equation. Bill Baka |
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On Mar 4, 8:33 pm, "George Conklin" >
wrote: > > Anything which makes a bus more efficient would make a car even more > efficient than the bus. Right now transit buses waste fuel big time. Does your proclamation factor in the extra time those cars would be on the road if each of those morning rush hour transit buses were replaced by 80-100 cars? Or the fuel cost cars themselves, for that matter? And their parking, in terms of distance and time and cost? How's a fuel cell going to help those things? Heck, a lot of 'efficient' fuel systems aren't even allowed to park in high-density underground lots. Transit buses may be inefficient in some places, but in others, like my downtown, you have to look at the cars and ask "why bother?" Fastest to slowest in Toronto for distances between 6 and 100 blocks: Subway, bus, bicycle, streetcar, car. In really bad weather, insert "pedestrian" between bike and streetcar (up to 50 blocks, anyway.) |
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