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"Toby Groves" > wrote in message
... > In article >, Tha Ghee > > writes > >"Randy S" > wrote in message > ... > >> >a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500 > >> > >> Well, then again the A8 compares to the S-class, not the E-class. > >Compare the A6 to the E-class to be fair... > >> > >> Randy > > > >but the A-8 has no V-12 so how can it compare to the S-class?? > > You mean the S-Class has no W-16, so how can it compare to the A-8? > -- > Toby the A8 doesn't have a W-16 here, only the V-8 |
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"Tha Ghee" > wrote in message >...
> "Toby Groves" > wrote in message > ... > > In article >, Tha Ghee > > > writes > > >"Randy S" > wrote in message > > ... > > >> >a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500 > > >> > > >> Well, then again the A8 compares to the S-class, not the E-class. > Compare the A6 to the E-class to be fair... > > >> > > >> Randy > > > > > >but the A-8 has no V-12 so how can it compare to the S-class?? > > > > You mean the S-Class has no W-16, so how can it compare to the A-8? > > -- > > Toby > > the A8 doesn't have a W-16 here, only the V-8 the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an honest mistake [kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder, I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...] |
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>the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US
>it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an >honest mistake However, a "W16" has been developed for the new Bugatti supercar. >[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder, >I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...] > Yupp. It's essentially two 24 valve VR6s mated at the crank. VW found the benefits of this engine years ago with the Corrado SLC. |
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In article >, Avantium
> writes >the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US >it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an >honest mistake Sorry about that. >[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder, >I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...] Yeah, my comments were somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The comment was made that since the S-class had a V12 available and the A8 did not, then it must be a better car. I was simply responding to this by saying the A8 has a W12 available/coming, so does this make it a better car than the Merc? -- Toby |
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"Tha Ghee" > wrote:
> a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500, > I see why VW/Audi is in trouble. Wow that's a frigging BARGAIN!! In the Netherlands they go for the equivalent of US$201k.. but than again you yanks get every car virtually for free so maybe $74k is considered expensive over there... |
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Avantium wrote:
> > [kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder, > I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...] "Big and piggish"? The whole point of the W design is its compactness - it's only about as long as a V8. -- Mike Smith |
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"Avantium" > wrote in message
om... > "Tha Ghee" > wrote in message >... > > "Toby Groves" > wrote in message > > ... > > > In article >, Tha Ghee > > > > writes > > > >"Randy S" > wrote in message > > > ... > > > >> >a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500 > > > >> > > > >> Well, then again the A8 compares to the S-class, not the E-class. > > Compare the A6 to the E-class to be fair... > > > >> > > > >> Randy > > > > > > > >but the A-8 has no V-12 so how can it compare to the S-class?? > > > > > > You mean the S-Class has no W-16, so how can it compare to the A-8? > > > -- > > > Toby > > > > the A8 doesn't have a W-16 here, only the V-8 > > the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US > it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an > honest mistake > > [kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder, > I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...] you do realize that a W-12 will never be as smooth as a V-12 |
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"Steve Grauman" > wrote in message
... > >the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US > >it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an > >honest mistake > > However, a "W16" has been developed for the new Bugatti supercar. > > >[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder, > >I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...] > > > > Yupp. It's essentially two 24 valve VR6s mated at the crank. VW found the > benefits of this engine years ago with the Corrado SLC. I think they should have ponied up a little money and made a true V-12. with this config what are the true benefits?? |
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"Bram" > wrote in message
m... > "Tha Ghee" > wrote: > > > a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500, > > I see why VW/Audi is in trouble. > > Wow that's a frigging BARGAIN!! In the Netherlands they go for > the equivalent of US$201k.. but than again you yanks get every > car virtually for free so maybe $74k is considered expensive > over there... not expensive but it's missing a few things like V-12, snob appeal. it does have AWD. but I think you get a few cars we don't. |
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>I think they should have ponied up a little money and made a true V-12.
You're potentially talking hundreds of millions of dollars in development costs. >with this config what are the true benefits?? It's "footprint". The VR/W configurations make the engines narrower and allows VW/Audi to squeeze them into places were an engine that size normally would not fit. The 2.8 Litre VR6 fitted to the Golf/GTi/Jetta is an example of this, as is the W8 in the Passat. |
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