Pink Kate

"Spdloader" > wrote in message
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> I believe by soft point, you're referring to a semi-jacketed wadcutter.

http://www.pmcammo.com/images/jsp.jpg

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I never noticed that, but I don't currently own any .44 mag caliber weapons.
Lots of others, but nothing in the caliber of Clint.

Spdloader



"L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
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> Nope. Look down your anything but a 44 mag and you will not see
> that ridge. The first bullet through is feels pefect, it's the second
> without cleaning that is dangerous.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Spdloader wrote:
>>
>> Alignment problem?
>>
>> Spdloader

Yep, that's it!

They may have another name now, everything gets reinvented and needs a
cooler name, but that's a semi-jacketed wadcutter.
Great round.

Spdloader


"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
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> "Spdloader" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I believe by soft point, you're referring to a semi-jacketed wadcutter.
>
> http://www.pmcammo.com/images/jsp.jpg
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>

Spdloader did pass the time by typing:
> I never noticed that, but I don't currently own any .44 mag caliber weapons.
> Lots of others, but nothing in the caliber of Clint.

I've been eyeing a sweet .454 Casule. Only drawback is the max
caliber you can conceal carry under Oklahoma law is .45 :/


--
DougW

My very favorite caliber, is the .45

For concealed carry, I have an accurized, balanced, Novak'd Colt Officers
ACP

I owned a couple of the .454's I have been "gun poor" a time or two in my
life.

I just favor the .45 now.

My favorite anti-bear weapon is the Polaris Sportsman 700.

Spdloader


>

"DougW" > wasted time by writing in
news:0NX0g.15043$IZ2.13238@dukeread07...
> Spdloader did pass the time by typing:
> > I never noticed that, but I don't currently own any .44 mag caliber
> > weapons. Lots of others, but nothing in the caliber of Clint.
>
> I've been eyeing a sweet .454 Casule. Only drawback is the max
> caliber you can conceal carry under Oklahoma law is .45 :/
>
You don't need to conceal carry for grizzly. They are not that smart. ;^)

Earle

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III >, the surplus diver, bewailed:

> Nope. Look down your anything but a 44 mag and you will not see
> that ridge. The first bullet through is feels pefect, it's the second
> without cleaning that is dangerous.

bluh bluh



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ObHint: Just because you argue with a notorious ****wit netk0oK, it
does not necessarily follow that you are not also a ****wit netk0oK.

It doesn't surprise me, the old native american grizzly claw necklaces
were notable for the way in which the wearer harvested them--kinda like
modern kids steal lights off cop cars. They can be killed with a .22
as well. The folklore is that when they get ticked off they become much
like a crack addict overdosed on meth. I've only been treed once and
wasn't particularly interested in the .22 theory.

Earle Horton proclaimed:
> The last grizzly in Colorado was reportedly killed in self defense by a bow
> hunter in 1976--wielding a hunting arrow like a spear. He got in some
> trouble with the forest rangers, who just couldn't believe that he had
> killed the bear, in the manner in which he described it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Lon" > wrote in message
> . ..
>
>>All sorts of folklore about the Montana silvertip grizzlies. One guy
>>used to hunt them with a longbow. And one guy near Hungry Horse was
>>killed by a grizzly [for some reason named Gordon Bill] after having
>>emptied a 30-40 Kraig and a 9mm into the thing. Another named 3 Toe
>>took out several humans before being caught. When I was growing up
>>around Flathead Valley, about 1 or 2 folks per year would be killed by
>>grizzlies somewhere within the Valley or mountains each year.
>>
>>The black bear were never really that much of a threat other than if you
>>happened to scare one or surprise one at the wrong time.
>>
>>L.W.(Bill) Hughes III proclaimed:
>>
>>>Hi Earle,
>>> I have a tape of the "Grizzly Man being eaten by a grizzly, while
>>>tried to beat off the bear and was eaten herself. I was disappointed in
>>>my 44: http://www.billhughes.com/44_22.jpg going through about half the
>>>eleven inches of pine my .357 does. We use just a .22 between the eye of
>>>thousand pound pigs and cattle, before slaughter:
>>>http://www.billhughes.com/4Hdurock.jpg People like to use at least a
>>>thirty ought six to explode the heart of a deer:
>>>http://steve-badger.net/gunshtml/ammo.jpg
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

>>>
>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read in one of the early pioneer type accounts, that the best thing
>
> was to
>
>>>>play dead. Now, they say that a 44 magnum will do the job, if you know
>>>>where to aim it. I've never fired one, but friends in Virginia took out
>
> a
>
>>>>good sized oak tree once, with a 44 magnum pistol. I saw a young black
>
> bear
>
>>>>on the trail to Glacier Peak once. When he saw me, he took off--up
>
> hill.
>
>>>>The only thing I can remember feeling from that encounter is envy.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Earle Horton
>
>
>

I believe the stereotypical method is to shoot it thru the roof of the
mouth. Of the folks who actually had to go after the problem bears back
before tranq guns, most used 12 guage magnum and double buck shot, with
trained bear dogs. A 7 mm or 300 magnum works pretty good, it can lift
the bear completely off its feet with an uphill shot.

Earle Horton proclaimed:

> So you sneak up on Mr. Grizzly, close enough to place the muzzle of a 22
> right between his eyes, then do him in with one shot? Reminds me of a
> story, about mice debating the best way to put a bell on a cat. I don't
> claim to be a big game hunter, but with my Physics degree I understand that
> stopping a big animal is more about energy transfer, than it is about
> penetration. The 44 would seem to be a better choice in that regard, than
> the 357. The thirty ought six is a formidable piece of ammunition, but
> where do you find a thirty ought six pistol? If you work in grizzly
> country, but are not necessarily hunting them, then a pistol is bound to be
> more convenient, than a rifle.
>
> Of people who have been there, that I have talked to, most recommended the
> 44, with some recommending the 357. Bathing can be a problem, with the
> bear, who is after all lazy, waiting on the bank, next to the backpack with
> the 44 in it, while Mr. Surveyor is standing naked in the middle of a
> near-freezing Alaska river.
>
> My coworkers in Virginia hunted black bear with shotgun slugs, but they
> didn't always do the job. One told me he was sure he had exterminated a
> young black bear, so he started carrying it back to the pickup, whereupon
> Mr. Bruin commenced to complain. I'm told that it is a strange feeling,
> having a wounded bear come to life on your back.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W.(Bill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Hi Earle,
>> I have a tape of the "Grizzly Man being eaten by a grizzly, while
>>tried to beat off the bear and was eaten herself. I was disappointed in
>>my 44: http://www.billhughes.com/44_22.jpg going through about half the
>>eleven inches of pine my .357 does. We use just a .22 between the eye of
>>thousand pound pigs and cattle, before slaughter:
>>http://www.billhughes.com/4Hdurock.jpg People like to use at least a
>>thirty ought six to explode the heart of a deer:
>>http://steve-badger.net/gunshtml/ammo.jpg
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>I read in one of the early pioneer type accounts, that the best thing
>
> was to
>
>>>play dead. Now, they say that a 44 magnum will do the job, if you know
>>>where to aim it. I've never fired one, but friends in Virginia took out
>
> a
>
>>>good sized oak tree once, with a 44 magnum pistol. I saw a young black
>
> bear
>
>>>on the trail to Glacier Peak once. When he saw me, he took off--up
>
> hill.
>
>>>The only thing I can remember feeling from that encounter is envy.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Earle Horton
>
>
>

Kate proclaimed:

> "Earle Horton" > wrote
> : My coworkers in Virginia hunted black bear with shotgun slugs, but they
> : didn't always do the job. One told me he was sure he had exterminated a
> : young black bear, so he started carrying it back to the pickup, whereupon
> : Mr. Bruin commenced to complain. I'm told that it is a strange feeling,
> : having a wounded bear come to life on your back.
> :
> : Earle
> :
>
> Did he mention if he needed a change of pants or not?
> That would be a really bad feeling I think.
>
> Yet another good reason to field dress your game I guess.
>

Not that unusual a tale. Seems deer take offense at being shot as well,
and can rip a hunter to ribbons rather quickly. Not that afraid of even
a grizzly, but I really would prefer to stay away from a senior bull
moose in the fall--not even the grizzlies are stupid enough to tackle
those mellow marsh munchers.